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Fox News caption: BY WINNING, DEMOCRATS ARE ACTUALLY LOSING

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

He’s saying “good, let them enact their terrible policies and then everyone will see how bad they are, dooming them forever.”

This is a ballsy thing to say while Trump’s policies are currently lighting our future on fire, and when the Democratic platform consistently has more popular policies in it.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Honestly, I am amenable to a different point, that by winning Democrats will learn nothing and just go back to "SEE?! WE'RE NOT HIM! That's the only thing we have to do to win!"

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[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 216 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Holy crap, it's real. Link. I thought this must be satire.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 244 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Her argument is that more people will move to red states as a result. I hate to break it to her, but increased population density is almost guaranteed to make states turn blue.

So by winning, Democrats are actually losing, making red states turn blue, so Democrats are winning. Suck it, commies!

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 99 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Moving from blue to red again was a shock, I sure miss the quality of public services. This place is falling apart unless you live in the richest suburbs.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Moving from red to blue was a shock. Did you know blue states will actually attempt to improve citizens lives?

[–] PKscope@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I live in Bumfuck, WV. Quite possibly the stupidest state in the Union. Our elected representation perfectly encapsulates the constituents of the state. Moronic, incompetent, and completely unwilling to incite change for a more prosperous future.

I fucking hate it here. I can't wait to be able to move.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I moved from blue to purple, then red, then redder. It's been an adventure.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I went Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Minnesota, Texas. That last jump was a hard transition. Frankly, I hope we get invaded by Mexico because there's no other way to fix the state government at this point.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Isn’t it conservatives that are leaving blue states? I know urban centers tend to be more left leaning but I don’t think those people will quickly change their views just from moving. Maybe their kids?

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Independent of left and right, a higher population density naturally results in increased support for public services, which the right has decided to firmly establish themselves as being against.

Plus there's the added benefit of prejudice and racism decreasing in a more diverse community. (at least on a personal level)

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

By winning they make MAGA folks go away? Sounds like double winning to me...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 days ago

I think she's totally right republicans, move to Alabama and Florida. You'll be safe there.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Have socialist policies lifted people out of poverty in Venezuela?

Perhaps if the US lifted its sanctions on Venezuela, maybe they'd find out.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 30 points 6 days ago

Kind of the constant history of socialism. It's almost the same as the arguement against being LGBT.

See being LGBT is bad, I can prove it, look at the suicide rates of LGBT people?

Isn't that because you are bullying them?

Yeah, but I wouldn't bully them if they were straight, so that proves being LGBT is bad for your health!

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 60 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Actually, I can't argue this. It's true, just probably not in the way Fox intended (I have no idea what they intended.)

Consider that if Mamdani holds up his promises, the old guard Democrats are going to look like the pathetic diet-Republicans that they are and always have been. If his electoral win sparks a wave farther left across the country, and the Overton Window shifts with it, then any Democrats that don't adjust with the times will be outshined by more progressive candidates.

In that way, a "Democrat" win can result in many Democrats losing. But that's a good thing, in my opinion.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (11 children)

This is exactly what the idealist types who chirp on about third parties and revolutions should actually want to see.

A slow invasion and replacement of old gaurd DNC members with new life.

Very unfortunately, its very difficult to deliver on the type of instant change people want to see on the federal level given the need for 3 brnaches of government and a super majority in the senate, but at bare minimum I hope this makes people who just don't pay attention to politics realize that it turns out there isn't actually a reason things can't be better, and it turns out you can actually just tax rich people a little bit more to see a huuuuuge benefit to your everyday life.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

No! Electoralism can never work! Iterative progress is literally impossible and harm reduction is a pointless goal! It's actually bad when good things happen because that means people are less willing to burn everything down and accept beautiful Anarchy overnight!

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

By losing republicans are actually losing.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Fuck, I really hope they don't keep losing this way!!!

I'd be so fucking owned if they did!

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Leftists and liberals: looks at world - this needs to be better, let's improve it.

Right and conservatives: looks at leftists and liberals - I don't care how or why, but we need to make everybody suffer.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

i had to suffer so everyone must suffer

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 95 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes yes, by sweeping elections across the country, you've fallen right into my trap...

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 49 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pay no attention to Laura Ingram, we purposely trained her wrong... as a joke

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ha! Face to foot style, how do you like it?

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We have always been at war with Eastasia

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's full of crap with her argument about people leaving blue states, but I do have a lingering fear people will burn out before 2026 when it matters a little more. Wins better give us momentum and not complacency.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Experience does not fill me with hope

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 51 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I still can't believe people lived through the first Trump presidency and decided they wanted another.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you live in America, you know that guy who says shit like, "I'm not racist, but...", then the guy who thinks women are inferior, then the guy who is all out racist, then the Christian guy who's told America's Religion is at stake, then the guy who owns stocks and sees Republicans as his route to eternal wealth, and then ratio that into each American's collective of acquaintances. Then of all the other people left, only 40% of them bother to vote. Harris could have won probably if more registered Dems bothered to vote. But we all look at the bigots and groupthink takes over, as no way those assholes could win anything.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 70 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I hope you libs are ready to get OWNED when we shine a spotlight on this young, energetic, ridiculously charismatic mayor proposing new solutions to the problems a big majority of americans are facing!

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

"we havent tried anything and we're all out of ideas" :p

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 5 days ago

that is .. quite a headline. impressive.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 days ago
[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

Fuck it I can take the L 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't believe your eyes, don't listen to your ears, believe the party above all else

All hail the Cheeto! All hail the Cheeto! All hail the Cheeto!

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[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

I think this headline is aimed for the orange toddler in the white house, since this is his favourite kids channel on TV...now he's happy again and ready with more Tarrifs

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 34 points 6 days ago

someone get the narcan, they're overdosing on copium over here!

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well yeah, now they can immediately blame the coming economic collapse on those dirty libs because they're the ones in control now!!!!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

It's going to be really hard to recover from this shit. And most people will not understand that the tariff impacts that are just starting and still escalating and such will continue on unless we somehow get other countries to stop immediately... But why would they trust the U.S. after this. Why would someone in say Canada say, "sure I'll buy a bottle of wine from the U.S. now", or why would countries drop reactionary tariffs against the U.S. if they have set up new trade partners they may see as more reliable. Why hurt those new trade deals by believing the U.S. won't try to fuck them over a few years down the line.

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[–] stinerman@midwest.social 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They're losing because they're going to get tired of all the winning. Which is why the Republicans losing is actually winning. They're no longer tired of winning. So they can win again.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

yes, we should lose that way more.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 23 points 6 days ago

Well, that doesn't come across as desperate. /s

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago

I mean, they're only winning in shitholes like New York City and the state of Virginia.

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