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President backs Cuomo in election eve Truth Social post as Mamdani hits back at Trump’s ‘threat – it is not the law’

On the eve of New York’s well-watched mayoral election, Donald Trump issued a threat to its voters: stop Zohran Mamdani or pay.

“If Communist Candidate Zohran Mamdani wins the Election for Mayor of New York City, it is highly unlikely that I will be contributing Federal Funds, other than the very minimum as required, to my beloved first home,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social. “I don’t want to send, as President, good money after bad.”

Trump’s comments echo those broadcast on Sunday during his appearance on CBS’s 60 minutes, in which he said: “It’s gonna be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York, because if you have a communist running New York, all you’re doing is wasting the money you’re sending there.”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 123 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd love to see NYC set up a voluntary escrow account for federal taxes.

You don't have to pay shit till taxes are due, have NYC sit on their withholdings and trump won't be able to build any ballrooms.

[–] ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The problem is employers take taxes directly out of paychecks and send directly to the federal government.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they don't have to, you can opt out and pay the full bill come tax day. That would certainly put sand in the gears.

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You have to pay quarterly if your withholding doesn't match you tax burdon. That's oversimplified but in general you cannot wait till tax day or else everyone would. You would just self withhold, leave the cash in a safe money market fund and make 4% on it till tax day.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who cares? Do it anyway. The law doesn't fucking matter any more.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

It does for us plebs.

An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Illegal if a few thousand people do it, but defacto legal if a few million people do it.

We need a 2025 word for illegal things getting a pass due to systemic chaos in the same way we had truthyness in the early 2000s. I propose "derelegal" to mean technically illegal but unenforced due to systemic chaos or legal rot.

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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 106 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good thing it is legal for Trump and only Trump to meddle in elections. Yay.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago

This seems the require a better descriptor. Extorting an election.

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This is what’s happening. We all get riled up saying NY contributes more to the federal government than it receives so Trump needs NY more than it needs Trump. Which may be true, but the reality is that Trump is trying to dissuade voters.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 100 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Other states should protest by withholding taxes, as well. United, yes?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That's not really how it works - there's no one big sack of cash that gets handed over by the state, individual businesses (and people) pay their taxes to the IRS directly, and then separately to the state tax agencies (obvs leaving out some of the draconian nuance here). States don't have a practical method of withholding taxes short of going to every business and demanding they stop paying the feds. While hypothetically possible at some point, it's not in the short term feasible.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

There is a big sack of cash that gets handed over by the state: the federal payroll taxes for all the state government employees.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I disagree. I think having everyone send their federal taxes to a state entity for leverage purposes would be an interesting development. The individual is protected, and the state holds the bag.

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[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Tbh one of my main takeaways from this presidency is that states send too much money to the federal gov and have to ask for it back. It feels like having more local control of how these dollars are spent would maybe even be bi partisan.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

It is not bipartisan. The countries that take more than they send (primarily Republican states, I'm led to believe) would absolutely refuse.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How the fuck...

When the ever loving fuck are people going to wake up and remember their government/civics lessons??

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those teach how things are supposed to work, not what to do when things don't work as they should. I'm willing to wager no government willingly teaches people how to coerce it into working for them, but at least America definitely doesn't.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which is incredibly ironic for a country founded by terrorists (from the British perspective) who engaged in exactly that coercion.

[–] lilmookieesquire@lemmy.today 41 points 1 week ago

I really can’t think of higher praise.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I may be wrong, but isn't NYC more of a money generator than it's a receiver? If that's so, I don't see how NYC would suffer, but it would widen the divide between such areas and poor dotational ones, making their people possible maga recruits.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Most blue areas produce money, most red areas (excluding Texas I think) are leeches.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i think people are still expected to pay federal taxes. even if trump blocked funds.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Like King George did? How did that work out?

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Hilarious watching these idiots call literally everything they don't like "communism".

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Communist, socialist, anarchist, antifa, woke, leftist. Which ones am I missing that ain’t slurs?

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago

lol NY doesn’t need “his” funds. Trump needs NY funds though.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The billionaires don’t want you to know this but you pay taxes to the states your business is located in. You don’t just “leave” because taxes. The businesses these billionaires own in New York are still subject to taxes.

What’s crazy is the right has “donated” more money to supporting cuomo than Mamdani would have even taxed them.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

At this point there's little reason for blue states to remain. The US federal government is too far gone to fix and the kinds of ass wipe Democrats who would get elected certainly are going to do anything like expanding the Supreme Court or her tailing the power of the president so we might as well start from scratch

[–] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As somebody originally from New York State, I firmly believe that we could render the Federal government irrelevant simply through economic means alone

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

Actually, given how America works the only thing that would be necessary to completely destroy the federal government would be to have 40 senators, easily achievable, refuse to pass a budget. As we've seen without a budget everything grinds to a halt and eventually the federal workers are going to leave for other jobs. This might have already happened by sharing competence and the need to suppress the Epstein files but you could do it intentionally if you so desired

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Biden had an ounce of guts he would have started a shadow court with ethics rules and ignored the subprime court when it was clear they were off the rails.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Trump has a lot of property in New York.

Sure would be a shame if he finally saw some consequences and lost a few dozen of them.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 22 points 1 week ago

Go ahead TACO.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Idk man, I see a lot of red caps at a certain party's rallies

red = obvious communist symbolism

I think those caps even say "make america great again" which obviously sounds like a communist slogan

I'd say we arrest these filthy communists 😏

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The second act begins.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

So that would mean that New York could stop paying federal taxes, no? I'm sure it contributes more than it receives

I always find it hilarious how red states and their leaders are all about cutting off funds to the blue states that fund their miserable existence. "We will secede from the US!" Ok Boomer, good luck with funding yourself as all of you are so mismanaged that you would fail to feed your own population within the year.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

You have nothing to lose but your chains.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Whenever these fucks try and paint Americans as terrorists and threaten to cut off anything they create monsters they can't control. Anyone he attacks becomes wildly popular and almost assures them victory. Especially if he has his thugs come rough them up.

Fuck you cancer. You take far too many good people while skipping this piece of shit.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is impeachable ... par fot the course with Trump and MAGA. So sick of injustice.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

djt wouldn't be able to name the communist countries in the world to save his life. It is a very anti-American behavior to label half of Americans as enemies. The US totally includes an opposition party. Idiot still doesn't understand what a democracy is and how to stay in his lane.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago

Your move, orange boy.

[–] frankiehollywood@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure it's perfectly legal to interfere with a free and fair election.

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The time to speak up is now. The place to do it is everywhere.

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