History will go back and look at all of these enabling acts that brought about the fascist collapse of the American Empire. People in the future would be like, WHY WASN'T HE ARRESTED FOR THE BLATANT CRIMES??? in the same way we go "why wasn't Hitler stopped after this or that event?"
this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2025
633 points (99.4% liked)
politics
26356 readers
2814 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
You are absolutely hoping for a sane future.
With Grok HomeTruth AI, kids will be tasked with tough questions like was the Holocaust even real?
Funny you should say that and I know that's probably where it's going to lead but I did use that fucking AI to fight back in some manner against a holocaust denial fuck bag who believed that the showers were just used for sanitation instead of gassing people
Not surprised, but sorry you had to deal with a person like that.
You are correct that is where this is heading. They want kids to learn everything they know from AI.
I chose to get on Twitter, I did it to myself, no apologies needed but thank you I appreciate the sentiment
Because America is the Greatest Country in the World. It can't seriously address its problems because that would mean admitting it has them. Fascism and dictatorships are things that happen in Other Places, not America, so Americans must continue to deny the actions of their leaders or pretend that they're not really that bad.
At least Hitler went to prison for his attempted coup. Still didn't stop him from taking over eventually
This, I blame Biden for. He knew Trump was a traitor, and did absolutely nothing about it, while telling the public every day how big of a threat Trump will be. Biden willfully allowed this to happen.
Biden could have done more, but Trump was charged and was in the process of being tried when Aileen Cannon blocked it. The appeal was abandoned when Trump was reelected. If the case was in front of an actual unbiased jurist, it would have gone much farther, but Cannon is pretty infamous for being a biased and inadequate jurist
It was a solid two years before charges were filed. He should have been arrested the second he left the Whitehouse, and thrown in some cell deep underground. If Biden had wanted the man thrown in prison, he'd be in prison.
And he literally weaponized a pandemic. He should have been tried by the military for war crimes and domestic terrorism.
Pretty sure the Patriot Act authorised Biden to do some heinous shit against Trump and he.
Didn’t.
The system failed as it so often does. This failure was perhaps novel for the sheer amount of corruption it took, but hardly unprecedented.
No. What is unprecedented is the willful mismanagement of an epidemic that you allow to spiral into a pandemic so you can ineptly weaponize it against your own citizens like the special Ed kid at super villain school. And then throwing a temper tantrum that results in a capitol riot.
Yeah the weaponizing of COVID against our own citizens was beyond insane. I remember someone threatening to kill me on Facebook because I said use precautions and be safe.
The fact that a bunch of people he pardoned went on to commit felonies kind of says everything.
Biden's idea was that ordering the DoJ to go after his political opponent, justified or not, would be something that would never be undone and the American people would never forgive.
He also had faith that the American people, when presented with a choice between a bumbling fascist idiot and anyone else, they would make the right choice. If he's right, not putting any pressure on the judicial branch should do the least damage.
He gambled for what he thought was the overall best outcome and lost. It's no coincidence that was also the path that required him to do nothing extreme.
America had forgotten how to do bold things. The Dems realized they couldn't campaign on status quo even though that was pretty decent and improving. And when they needed to come up with something more, their best answer was, "idk, $50k towards your first house, if the Republicans let us?"
I don't know which is worse, Obama for not forcing his Supreme Court justice through or Robert fucking Mueller, who was too fucking scared to actually outright say he's guilty af, even if he did line everything up for Congress to draw that conclusion.
When history looks back at this time, i think Biden's largest failure, (in regards this matter), will have been breaking his promise to be a one term President. So many screw-ups happened off the back of that, his catastrophic debate; the funding making it difficult for any other nominee but Kamala Harris to run; the undemocratic way Kamala was elevated to the nominee position; the late in the day change itself.
I suppose it was his own self importance, but democracy is never about one person. Each person plays a part, it needs to be recognised and acted upon when that part has finished.
It's true, I do believe if the dems had an open primary they would have done better. I know many swing voters that abstained or voted for Trump because they hated that Harris was "appointed" and thought it was undemocratic.
I do believe at least some of them truly did get hung up on this issue. Others I believe were juat using that as an excuse though
I don't fucking care. He's a domestic terrorist and now even worse than what I'm sure they thought were hyperbolic warnings. He should objectively be in the Hague, so I don't give a fuck if he's also a 'political oponent'. Biden and Garland failed in a spectacular fashion.
There is a long list of people complicit in the current spiral towards dictatorship. Mueller, Comey, Roberts, Biden, Obama, Cheney (rest in piss)... Our current situation is the consequence of a rotten society. Trump is just a symptom.
Biden’s idea was that ordering the DoJ to go after his political opponent, justified or not, would be something that would never be undone and the American people would never forgive.
He also had faith that the American people, when presented with a choice between a bumbling fascist idiot and anyone else, they would make the right choice
How do you have faith in a system that you operate and openly admit cannot function as advertised?
Republicans are getting what they asked for - massive pogroms of brown people and high profile liberal dissidents.
Democrats are wringing their hands and shaking their heads, insisting the only thing they can deliver is... checking my notes here... Ah! Smaller pogroms against brown people and handfuls of minor right wing dissidents.
If the DoJ only catches the small fish under the Party of Rules Based Intentional Order, what do they expect happens when the big fish come to eat them?
Biden spent more time fighting with TikTok over pro-Palestine memes than Elon Musk and Peter Theil over trillion dollar securities fraud.
Some of this information was available but read the entire article. It's very good reporting on just how clear Trump's intent to break the law was, the extreme sensitivity of the documents, and the clear lies Trump told in response to the raid and demands. Just an example excerpt:
Olsen’s minders then told him about a fourth stack of documents, stored in a separate safe, explaining that only one agent in the field office was approved to handle them. Each of the documents in the safe bore a ticket with coding that described its unique handling instructions — above and beyond the strict approvals for highly sensitive top-secret and sensitive compartmented information.
Olsen got on the phone with his counsel to read the codes aloud, one by one, to determine if he had permission to view them. Some of the documents were so restricted that top Justice Department security officials reacted with surprise to the code names: They had never heard of them before. Some involved special access programs that required the president or a cabinet member to grant approval to view.
The documents that Trump did not turn over - after repeated requests were ignored, after turning over the initial boxes, the false "complete" folder of additional documents, showing the FBI the room with other boxes that was staged after they moved out other incriminating documents - were documents so sensitive that infosec policy required the acting president or cabinet member to personally authorize any request to view them.
If Trump "authorizes" the DOJ to settle his frivolous lawsuit related to the FBI raid, it will be a criminal openly stealing public funds in retribution for catching him red-handed after he repeatedly lied to police, and for nearly but not even making him face consequences. It gives me a headache how corrupt, unethical, and immoral that would be.
The fact that every level of law enforcement has failed so utterly in this regard is the most damning reason for a wholesale restructuring and rewriting of our legal codes and governing system. It is unconscionable to be a part of such a broken society.
Yes, you are totally right. I would like to add that the rule of law, when it comes to money, has been broken from the foundation of the US.
If it had been anyone else, he would have been arrested - within hours of them realizing those things were missing.
If it had been anyone else, they'd have been named a grave threat to national security and it's pretty likely they'd never be seen or heard from again.
With lawyers provided by the CIA, who are very overpaid to explain one no longer has rights.
Fascists don't play by the rules.
I seriously hope Trump gets taken out full on Mussolini style...
Be very very careful how you word sentiments like this. He hasn't gone full dictator yet, but when he does and declares martial law we will have labor camps filled with people who said things online he doesn't like. Every dictator rounds up dissenters.
I realize that The only power a dictator can take is what we give with our silence, but personally, I'm not a freedom fighter. Germany wasn't rebuilt by the heros. It was rebuilt by the survivors.
Well he'll probably have to invade Europe to capture rockettaco37@feddit.nu
(he might)
It would be a fatal mistake; by that point the US will likely already be in a two-front war on their own continent, starting a third front with an ocean in the way seems like a bad idea
Ja. 🇸🇪
Although, I am originally from the US myself
I feel relatively safe speaking out against him in Canada. But not fully safe because he wants to conquer Canada too. But fuck it, I'm already in danger for being born autistic so I might as well do whatever I want.
Canadians are holding strong against an incredible threat.
The world is behind you
I'm not scared of fascists and will not remain silent against them. If that proves fatal, so be it.
I don't think his cankles could support the weight...
I want an investigation into where they've been disappearing people in the immigrant detention centers to. I'm afraid the next Democrat government (if there is one) will be too spineless to investigate or prosecute these people that are carrying out genocide!
American Nuremberg when?
For anyone wondering why we keep top secret documentation in printed form, some of this stuff is so secret they don’t trust electronic devices to house it. To dump it in a bathroom in Mar-a-Lago is a sin that defies comprehension.
In a transcript of a July 2021 meeting obtained for his indictment, this is a direct quote from Trump, speaking to a White House staffer:
“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.”
It would be hilarious if only it were a Monty Python sketch.
Only a senile malignant narcissist could lack the self-awareness to say such a thing. When I say Trump is clinically insane, this is what I mean. The fact that this man is president instills a dread approaching cosmic horror. My highest hope at this point is to survive the next three years without a nuclear holocaust.
Don't forget that opposite the huge stack of document boxes was possibly a photocopy machine.
https://xcancel.com/williamlegate/status/1667929518395256833#m
We actually know that documents were photocopied, because many of the documents he had were obviously photocopied. Classified documents have a colored border that goes all the way to the edge of the paper:
But the vast majority of photocopiers can’t print to the edge of the paper, (it requires specialized printers which aren’t commercially viable except in specialized print shops), which means photocopies of classified documents don’t have that solid colored edge. Photocopies have a thin white edge where the non-printable area is. And many of his documents had that white edge, which meant they were photocopies and the originals were missing.
This is an explicit admission that the law is powerless against at least the president, but also likely many many more people in power. Freedom cannot exist if some people have cart blanche to trample other peoples freedoms, so now by the US's own word, they are no longer a free country.
"You might be a fascist cocksucker if you say this"
How about do your fucking job when we most need you to? Worthless jerks.
The problem is — it shouldn’t matter. A crime is a crime. Succession is built into our foundation.
Documents must be the Epstein files, Trump stole them to use as bed material.
This is a fucking lie.
Grab a fist full of Congresscritters and you'll find the same in microcosm. Governors are even worse. Nobody is coming for Jim Justice or Kristen Gillibrand or Ken Paxton. Eric Adams got his case dropped ffs.
Nobody is getting prosecuted for corruption.
Then arrest him!