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OK, trans community – it’s truth time. One of the biggest differences between the way women are treated and the way that y’all are treated is that y’all are allowed to have safe spaces. You’re allowed to have subreddits that are trans-only, places and events that are just for you. We’re not.

When I tried to start a subreddit for female humans, for example (including the ones who identify as men) so that we had a place to talk about female things, it lasted less than a week, and the admins performed a delicate little dance before banning us for “hate.” They temp-banned me and all my mods, then banned the whole community because we weren’t able to take down the anti-trans posts that were clearly against our rules - and that didn’t appear until after we were tempbanned. Hmm.

Women get nothing: not subreddits, not dating apps, not even an app for women in general. No bathrooms, no changing rooms, no sports of our own; hell, we can’t even get away from y’all in prison! Any female-only event y’all get to hearing about is targeted by protesters, often violent ones, invariably carrying signs threatening harm or encouraging suicide — lovely behavior from people who constantly quote trans suicide statistics as if it’s the biggest crisis on the planet, btw.

Any women’s shelter or rape crisis center that is female-only is also targeted: the sole remaining women’s rape crisis center in all of Canada has been repeatedly vandalized with threatening graffiti, and even had a dead rat nailed to its door. This, in a city with 6 other rape counseling centers available, all of them trans-friendly. It’s not about being denied access to services — it’s sick, twisted, furious hatred at even the idea of women having anything of our own.

You have taken it all: our spaces, our sports, and our safety. You’ve taken our privacy, our dignity, our right to single-sex incarceration, and our right to single-sex intimate care. You’ve taken our identities, and the words we use to name ourselves.

You want us to agree that being female means nothing, is nothing, deserves nothing - no recognition, no separate existence — not even a name. We are “uterus-havers,” “menstruators,” “bleeders,” and “people with cervixes.” “Women” belongs to you now, and you’re even coming for “female.”

You’re taking everything we are, piece by piece — and what do we get in return, for the theft of the names you took from us? “C*s” — a prefix that sidelines us in our own demographic, and which privately, the trans community uses as a slur.

What good little colonizers you’ve turned out to be.

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[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Women” belongs to you now, and you’re even coming for “female.”

This is unhinged.

Maybe stop seeking trans news for your rage fix? That would help everyone.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

"Language has moved on without my permission and it makes me grumpy!"

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the sole remaining women’s rape crisis center in all of Canada has been repeatedly vandalized with threatening graffiti,

This is full on disinformation

If there's a TERF center in town, I hope it would get vandalized.

[–] backwardsbae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cis is a slur now? Well dang, that's news to me!

Oh, they've been whining about that for a long time.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“C*s” — a prefix that sidelines us in our own demographic, and which privately, the trans community uses as a slur.

"They use 'cis' as a slur!"

"I've never heard them do that."

"Well, they do it privately! So we won't know!"

The level of paranoia and projection is astronomical. Imagine being a non-TERF feminist and having to deal with one of these people in your space! Yikes.

"We want to be able to spread hate of you in peace! Why oh why do you persecute us so?"

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

There are women only subreddit and spaces absolutely everywhere. Gyms, trains, bars etc. It's a good thing. Give women the space they want to be safe and among other women. I believe men should get the same options, where applicable. Everyone just needs their own place to feel accepted and comfortable, that's a right we all deserve, every one of us, regardless of sex, gender, sexuality, age, whatever.

I imagine these TERFs were banned for incredibly transphobic hate speech (like they knew they would be) and used that as a tool to cry discrimination. It's a common tactic from the right; knowingingly break the rules in a way that'll allow you to cry discrimination.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Women aren't allowed to have a subreddit? There are several subreddits for women

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They are misgendering trans men and forcing them into the "female human" group. Their issue is that they want a "assigned female at birth" space. AKA a TERF space.

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reminds me of the all white city they built in the woods. The entire black community was like “great, bye!” And that pissed the racist off like “no you’re supposed to be mad! You’re supposed to be trying to get in so we can say no!”

But everyone is like “no you going to live by yourself in the woods sounds fantastic. Best idea we’ve ever heard.”

It’s the same thing happens when someone tries to make an all women group that specifically doesn’t allow trans people. “Well you’ve surrounded yourself with hateful people… it’s not going to end well”

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get that it's just weird they'd claim there are no subreddits for women, twox is one of the biggest subreddits out there

Their issue isn't that there is no women spaces, it that there are no women's only spaces that excludes trans women.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't see why they can't have one. There should be specific spaces for all sorts:

  • trans men
  • trans women
  • cis men
  • cis women
  • men
  • women
  • cis men and trans women
  • cis women and trans men

Everyone should get a space, and everyone can join multiple spaces. I honestly don't see an issue with that, provided none of them spread hate against the others.

I don't think trans men would take kindly for someone calling from "female humans". They pretty clearly wanted to distance themselves from that aspect of themselves, there's a reason the old name is called "dead name".

Someone coming in and referencing the past they want to forget and trying to do a community around it is pretty freaking weird and trans denial, in a way. No wonder terfs are attracted to such spaces...

They can try to get a space only for "female assigned at birth" people all they want, but I don't think normal women, regardless of their trans/cis status, would be interested in participating in a place that isn't accepting of all women. Thus, the circle of people interested in a space as such are, guess what, terfs.

Idk, the wording presented in OPs language feels very icky.

[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno, it seems weird to me to segregate groups by gender. Remember that subreddit where you had to send in a picture of your skin color for approval? Having a space themed around a certain type of issue makes more sense to me.

I 100% agree, but if people want to self-organize that way, they should be able to, provided they obey the platform rules.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Aren't they misgendering trans women? They don't want trans women in women's spaces.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, yeah, that's the obvious part, but they are welcoming trans men in the "actually female if y'all decided to be cis lol" group, and ~~afaik the point of being trans is to kill their old person and be the new one, hence the concept of the dead name~~. I might not be entirely correct there but then forcefully including trans men in their group is as disrespectful to them as it is to trans women to be excluded. It's just all bad.

Paraphrasing

I tried to create a space for female humans, including those that identify as male aka trans men, to talk about feminine things.

Dunno, maybe they are more interested in talking about the stuff more close to the gender they identify as?

In any case, I don't mean to say that men don't like to talk about feminine stuff, I do, but I feel like from OPs perspective that's not a thing so again, they are being disrespectful to everyone honestly.

[–] stray@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

afaik the point of being trans is to kill their old person and be the new one

Nah. I'm sure some people feel that way, but it's a very individual thing.

But you're right about the whole idea of your post. They see trans men as confused lesbians who've been led astray, including the ones who like men.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So confused that they changed their orientation? And they think that this is all done through brainwashing on social media? Wild.

[–] stray@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Based on the YouTuber-infiltrating-creepy-hate-group content I've seen, the Venn diagram of "cis women who think trans women are men" and "lesbians who think straight women will immediately switch teams if a woman gets them off" seems to have quite a bit of overlap. I guess it makes sense that they're both rooted in penis=bad.

They're misgendering both, but in the case of creating a "female human" group for cis women and trans men they were misgendering trans men as female.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just started wondering what would even the male equivalent be. But imagine a dude thinking that they don't want another dude in their space because of what genitals they were born with.

Wouldn't really compute that well, I feel like.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, as a man, I don't need or want a male-only community, I much more align with hobbies and interests than gender identity, sexual orientation, or what my chromosomes are.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah. Although I guess if you'd assume the terfs "any outie genitals are a threat" then it'd make some sense, but genuinely it's not like it's the genitals what's the most threatening thing. But generally no-one does, because that's dumb and we're not terfs.

I'm much more afraid of too high testosterone levels than of penises. Because too high testosterone levels make people act very irrationally. Not always, and not just having high test. But like... it's a factor.

Like I won't judge anyone just using speed, but I also know thar abusing speed will make people really irrational.

This person is reveling in perceived victimhood. They seem genuinely energized by the fantasies of persecution they imagine themselves being subject to. Makes you wonder what is missing in their life that they seek that out.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Transwomen are female, I will never understand why they don't get that.

Why do they wanna gatekeep what it means to be a woman? Are they so pathetic that they can't define themselves beyond a bleeding cunt?