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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/4087

A US-Israeli geoengineering startup has raised $60m as part of its plan to test ‘sun-reflecting technology’. Critics are warning the new tech could have unexpected negative impacts on global weather and drive “geopolitical conflict”. Supporters, meanwhile, have pointed out it might not do that. 🚨Big News in Solar Geoengineering Stardust Solutions, an Israeli-U.S. startup developing […]

By Willem Moore

If you’re unfamiliar with solar ‘geoengineering’, it’s essentially climate change in reverse. Much like how we’ve caused global warming and other changes by releasing carbon, methane, and other gases, scientists believe we can reverse the problem by releasing particles which reflect sunlight back into space.

In a report titled The Risks of Geoengineering, the Center for International Environmental Law summarised:

   Geoengineering technologies, if deployed at scale, could have profound, unpredictable, and potentially irreversible effects on biodiversity, both through their direct impacts and as a result of compounding and exacerbating existing planetary crises caused by pollution, climate change, and unsustainable land use.

As reported by Politico, this latest geoengineering plan is being led by US-Israeli startup Stardust Solutions. Their technology involves custom particles which the company claims are ‘inert’. They also believe these particles will not accumulate in humans or ecosystems, will not harm the ozone layer, and will not create acid rain.

Stardust Solutions’ founders are nuclear physicists who worked for the Israeli government. Although they insist their new project is unaffiliated with the state of Israel, they are headquartered outside Tel Aviv. This could cause problems for them worldwide given the boycott of Israel which began during Israel’s apartheid era and continued throughout the genocide.

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They will literally block out the fucking sun before they ever confront capital.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Their technology involves custom particles which the company claims are ‘inert’

It's gonna be microplastics.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago

it's hitler particles

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[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The neat thing about geoengineering is if you ever stop injecting this shit into the atmosphere you get decades of warming in a few years.

Can't see any issues with an approach that discourages restricting emissions and makes the consequences way worse.

Also does nothing about ocean acidification.

The day someone blocks out the fucking stars is the day I change my stance on adventurism.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

The fact that its even being considered absolutely demands that those who are attempting it fucking die. Beyond the pale doesnt describe the degree of absolute malevolence and hubris.

I WILL GO FULL anprim-pat IF THESE PRICKS FUCK WITH ANIMALS THIS MUCH.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

that's sort of a backward upside of it. the island nations who are most affected by warming and sea level rise could cobble together a few million dollars to unilaterally start doing it and then everyone else has a gun to their heads to keep it going.

better for the "west" to have communist revolutions of course but we aren't building those fast enough either.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's not a great idea for them. It's expensive without high altitude missiles and launch facilities, white skies sort of ruin the tourism aspect of their beaches, cooler oceans absorb co2 more quickly which will harm reefs and other life hotspots reducing fishing and other maritime industries.

Changes in rainfall patterns and ocean currents that are hard to predict is also not a great idea when you're a small island that can't buffer that or has the industrial base to support mass desalination and shit.

Also if you have smol military anyone who doesn't like you doing it will invade or blockade to stop you unless you have powerful backing. In which case, powerful backer is really the one doing it but with colonialism.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (8 children)

the thing is that's pretty cheap, speaking on the scale of nation-states. you can probably pay musk to do it, for example.

it's not a good plan but i could see people with a few million dollars and their backs to the wall going for it out of desperation

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[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I vaguely remember someone here saying this is a plotline in a novel, whereby India launched the first missiles and there was an eco errorist (?) group called the children of kali, or something

I'll try to dig it up if the search function blesses me

Edit: multiple people. The book is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future

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[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

unilaterally start doing it and then everyone else has a gun to their heads to keep it going.

everyone else is going to start shooting at these nations. when responsibility is spread to the self-interest of the nations everyone will be encouraged to maximalize aerosols that don't blow over their own territory, and everyone subject to these crop-failure clouds will retaliate.

the only semi-rational, last resort way to do this would be with strict international control and scope but every compounding failure of global climate policy has set the stage for profound violence

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Even the most layman scientist could tell you why this is a stupid and dangerous as fuck idea

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

but you see capital has tried nothing and they're out of ideas

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have found the degree of scientific ignorance/believing strongly in absolute scifi nonsense is pretty astounding. Just this week at work my boss said that one of the moons of Jupiter doesnt reflect any light, another co-worker didnt know what carbon was when me and another co-worker (with a geology degree but he's still kinda bad at non geology stuff) we're explaining what combustion is when out pasta pot boiled dry and she asked why the salt in the water didnt burn. I guarantee most people think string theory is real and that Dyson spheres are practical. Fucking everyone somehow seems to think Mars colonization is anything short of complete fantasy. If it's even possible to engineer a planet we sure as fuck can't, we cant even manage one handed to us with everything good to go. Like, id say it's know fuck all about science but really just by having retained shit i learned in high school im leaps and bounds past most. I don't understand not being curious about literally everything.

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My brain short-circuited when I read "when out pasta pot boiled" and I thought this was an "of out hot eat the food" variation.

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[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yea we all saw the simpsons

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Since the dawn of Man we have yearned to destroy the sun!

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Critics are warning the new tech could have unexpected negative impacts on global weather and drive “geopolitical conflict”. Supporters, meanwhile, have pointed out it might not do that.

this-will-have-consequences vs no-it-wont

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

incredible emojis

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The United Snakes and the Zionist entity really are cancers that need to be eliminated for the future of humanity.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you ever wanted to know what would bring back ecoterrorism. It's this. If anything like this ever tried to scale up it would immediately be attacked.

an-tifa

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah. Nothing will happen. The zionist entity where this research is taking place is full of fascists happy with and dependent on genocide so it's not exactly full of radicals who care about the earth. It's also an incredibly locked down police state. By the time it's ready for production the secrets will be in three places and the only way to stop it will be a full scale war with the US which no one including China will be willing to do unless it's an undisputable fact that this stuff will wipe out half of human life or something else equally serious and most likely it won't be clear exactly what the effects are until some time after deployment has been irrevocably set in motion. The usual propagandists who've downplayed the seriousness of climate change will be deployed to downplay the seriousness of any "side effects" and the same frothing reactionaries who've denied climate change so far will line up to be first in line to say we have to deploy this to save ourselves and to call those against it hypocrites for being against climate change and against their "fix".

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Doom scenario.

Don't over-estimate them though. Silicon valley idiots will probably blow that money away in a 3 day coke bender and call it a day. You think they give a shit about climate change?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fun fact: the reflective particles would wash all the color out of the sky, leaving it a milky white. They're going to take the sky from us.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Better that than giving up capitalism and using fossil fuels, you will have no sky and no jobs and be happy slave! porky-happy

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Lost my love, lost my land

Lost the last place I could stand

There's no place I can be

Since I've found serenity

And you can't take the sky from me.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is making me seriously consider changing my avi from Quattro to CCA Char. You cant engineer a fucking planet, or at least we can't. We do not understand our own planet nearly enough to even try fucking with it on purpose. This will still cause MASSIVE amounts of animal deaths and im pretty sure making the sky permanently grey is gonna be just fantastic for agriculture without even getting into what these chemicals they're pretty sure are inert will do to soil when it accumulates via rainfall. Solar power is gonna have a harder time cause irs always cloudy. Also we will just never see a blue sky again which passes cartoonish supervillainy into actual demon territory.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

GOOD post. Exactly my thoughts. There is no way something like this wouldn't completely mess up an already pressured biosphere.

No to mention, it doesn't solve other, non-heat related problems that are being caused by anthropocentric forces. We still will have too much carbon dioxide in the air, for one which is bad for all sorts of reasons, not just for the ozone.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's escapism made manifest. Even if it works youre essentially manufacturing the extinction event that will ultimately be the result of global warming but on a smaller and faster scale in order to delay the real thing until it hits you all at once when you can't keep pumping your probably inert mystery chemicals. We will run out of the material to synthesize whatever these almost for sure inert chemicals pretty fast or just like, stuff will happen to cause the mystery chemical rockets to stop being launched. Real fucking anprim hours here cause without a climate Stalin we are fucked so hard with these disgusting and buffoonish dreamweavers being allowed to make any choices let alone ones so massive as fucking GEOWENGINEERING. Literally everyone is stuck with those choices, this is some should be declared an enemy to life itself evil

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

smaller and faster scale in order to delay the real thing until it hits you all at once

real doomer hours but life could survive the 'normal' climate chaos we're projected for at the worse end, whereas theres a very real chance this delayed/condensed climate event could literally kill everything. solar geoengineering could precipitate a scenario more rapid and intense than the fucking great dying, and it's the only plan the capitalist ruling class seems to be interested in (besides global thermonuclear war)

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At least we kinda know the death rate of climate change, I totally agree there.

They'll destroy this earth they treat as their's and then say it's ours

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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Also we will just never see a blue sky again

"israel" sending the world to scotland

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

To quote Monty Python "Why would anyone be Scottish?...exactly! It would inly be if they had no other choice in the matter!"

[–] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Critics are warning the new tech could have unexpected negative impacts on global weather and drive “geopolitical conflict”. Supporters, meanwhile, have pointed out it might not do that.

Have you considered "nuh-uh"? Checkmate leftists.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like how they phrase it as 'pointed out', as if they named a logical flaw in the argument when all they did was just say it might not happen

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[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is literally what caused the apocalyptic appearance of the real world as depicted in The Matrix

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Two of the worst groups on earth trying to destroy earth, what's fucking new? And this is just another "vibes" bullshit based on this quote

They also believe these particles will not accumulate in humans or ecosystems, will not harm the ozone layer, and will not create acid rain.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i don't think that statement is very suspect. other projects just want to use chalk dust.

its this avenue of questioning that is terrifying, it doesn't matter if the stuff they put in the atmosphere is perfect--the effects of having anything up there performing this function is apocalyptic in medium-long term

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[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

If you’re unfamiliar with solar ‘geoengineering’, it’s essentially climate change in reverse.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO IT ISN'T. "Global Warming" =/= "Climate Change" dipshit, and this is FURTHER, AS YET IRREVERSIBLE CHANGE.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i'm just waiting on the south park episode about how caring about the sun is woke and gay because suburban chuds spend all day staring at screens indoors anyways

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's okay, 10 years later they'll make an episode about how they were wrong.

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[–] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago
[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Put world-ending power in the hands of Zionists so they can use it if they ever get even close to losing.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

I spent two years in a climate lab as a post-doc studying exactly this proposal after my PhD. It is a bad idea.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hey what do you know, things ARE turning out like the Matrix; except our AI is dumb

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this latest geoengineering plan is being led by US-Israeli startup Stardust Solutions

[–] booty@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

I'm sure filling the air with whatever the fuck is going to be good for all of us things that need the air to be roughly how it currently is in order to continue living

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

And the chuds want us to believe it's countries like China and the left that wants to control the weather. Lmao

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

:malm-shining:

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this is the plot to the matrix and why the machines use people as battery, remember seeing this in the movie "animatrix"

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