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"It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views," Jean-Pierre said. "There is no 'yes or no' answer to this, it is complicated. There is a rule that the Department of Education [DOE] has put forward, and we're going to let that process move forward, and again, we want to make sure that while we establish guardrails with this rule, we also prevent discrimination, as well, against transgender kids. But again, a complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that."

"Absolutely no reason for the Biden admin to do this," New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote. "It is indefensible and embarrassing. The admin can still walk this back, and they should. It's a disgrace."

"Honestly, this move by Biden to push a rule on trans kids in sports is not only a backwards betrayal, it [forces] us to have to spend our time dealing with god d*** sports instead of criminal bans on our healthcare," Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and LGBTQ+ advocate, wrote. "He could have just done nothing. This is legitimizing transphobia."

The mOsT PrOgReSsIvE Administration in History™ funny-clown-hammer "A complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that" funny-clown-hammer Fuck off out of here with that "centrist" nonsense. There's nothing complicated about it, and it's not an issue unless you want to turn it into one and want to appeal to people's emotions like Republicans are doing. It was only a matter of time before they'd start throwing trans people under the bus. I guess with the coming elections it's as good a time as ever.

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views… There is no 'yes or no' answer to this, it is complicated.”

I read this in Stephen Merchant’s voice

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

anarchista-chad No, its really not.

they realized that the GOP is historically unpopular and are rushing to help them out

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

[–] kingspooky@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"Harm reduction"

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

As a trans person, fuck sports, fuck the biden admin, I'm so fucking sick of this shit stfu-terf

[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's really not complicated. If trans people are the athletic super soldiers they're made out to be we need to encourage them to compete in sports to make them less of a snooze-fest.

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

It is a complicated issue tho. Some transphobes deserve re-education camps, while others need to get the wall.

[–] joseph@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

But Muh “harm reduction” candidate

[–] LocalMaxima@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

can you wait to have rights? The Most Important Election Of Our Lifetime™️is coming up and we can’t afford to lose the transphobes

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

And Hillary Clinton says the Democrats focus too much on trans issues. Still have no idea what the hell she's talking about. Have heard more about gay marriage than anything explicitly trans.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Look at all the harm being reduced. funny-clown-hammer Look at how this was and will be the most important election of our lives funny-clown-hammer

Clearly trans people are only good enough to get your rocks off to and then be discarded. But tell me again why I need to vote for the-democrat and how they're really any different from the-republican?

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Who the fuck cares about school sports?

There haven't been many studies for the impacts at the highest levels of competition (Olympic, World Cup, etc.)... For professional sports I'm OK with taking a more conservative approach, but who the fuck cares about school sports? There's so much genetic and age and socioeconomic variance that it literally doesn't matter.

[–] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I genuinely feel like this is such a non issue that even if I was completely wrong and science was a lie and trans women did have some kind of advantage over cis women in sports, it still wouldn't fucking matter because there are roughly six trans women playing sports at a high level. Manufactured outrage go brrrr.

[–] boff@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a real genuine question. Can you link me to some peer reviewed studies from a reputable source? I can't find any that say trans women have zero advantage over cis women in physical sports.

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[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, if someone is engaging in good faith conversation how likely are they to be banned here on hexbearpig?

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[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a question that comes from being uneducated on the matter, and I sincerely want to be. Trans woman athlete, amab, didn't begin her transition yet. First, is it something that happens a lot, and secondly, how is allowing her to compete in female sports different from eliminating the distinction between male and female in competition?

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

One thing that often gets uncritically accepted is that school sports are about competition. Remember: these are children we're talking about here. Kids play sports for community, to have fun and be part of a team.

All this fearmongering about potential advantages and statistical differences in anatomy is missing the forest for the trees. These laws are about discriminating against trans people, not about athletic fairness.

Also yeah boy/girl segregation in sports isn't scientific and largely exists for misogyny reasons (either to give women a space to compete away from men or to remove women from competition because men got butthurt about losing to them)

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

adding this to the long list of reasons im not voting for biden again when libs ask. my go-to is always “that fucker still owes me $600!”

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So, you think voting for a Republican or not voting is going to get the job done?

[–] build_a_bear_group@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you think that rewarding the Democrats for having the only standard be "Our senile, racist, rapist, corrupt, reactionary war criminal doesn't have an orange spray tan" is going to "get the job done"? Or just the entire party being the polite, norms-respecting Republicans.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's the only party that does not vilify LGBTQ people, so I'll keep voting for them for that reason and many others.

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no, democrats have demonstrated repeatedly that they are unwilling to do anything. you would be a fool to vote for them over and over again after seeing their incompetence and unwillingness to even slightly push back against the reactionary policies being enacted under biden

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Democratic Party has room for improvement, sure, but it's also the only party with room for improvement. On this issue, not voting is the same as voting for a Republican. That surely won't get you any improvement.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Actually since the democrats are republicans, by not voting for democrats I'm voting for democratsthink-about-it

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no, not voting is just not voting. voting for the republican party is voting for the republican party. and from where im standing, the difference between dems and republicans is negligible. the dems arent offering any “improvement”

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Republicans are salivating over the prospect of you not voting. Exactly what they want.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

further exploiting and oppressing the working class is exactly what the republicans want. and the dems are united w them in that

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thise two parties are nothing alike.

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