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A year after promising viewers a “red tsunami” in the 2022 midterms, only to be left with egg on their faces after the GOP drastically underperformed, Fox News was once again wondering what went wrong after Democrats romped to victory in statewide elections on Tuesday night.

Despite recent polls showing President Joe Biden deeply underwater with voters and even losing to Donald Trump in several battleground states, the Democratic incumbent governor easily won victory over his MAGA-endorsed opponent in deep-red Kentucky. And over in Ohio, a state Trump won by eight points in 2020, voters overwhelmingly passed an amendment ensuring access to abortion care in the state’s constitution.

The continued drag that undoing Roe v. Wade has had on the GOP was especially apparent in Virginia, where Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin had promised to implement a 15-week abortion ban if the GOP was able to gain unified control over the state’s General Assembly. Instead, not only were Youngkin’s hopes of a Republican sweep dashed, but the Democrats now control both chambers.

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 259 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hannity also groused that Republicans’ push to ban abortion in states across the country, as well as the reversal of the federal right to abortion, meant that “Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

When Republicans keep saying things like “total abortion ban”, yeah, we get that impression.

edit: fucking Texas is trying to make it illegal to drive to get around their abortion ban

[-] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 81 points 1 year ago

Show us your PAPERS!!

[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't mess with Texas, but we'll sure as fuck mess with you.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I wish we could go back to when they were mainly known for open beverage containers, but it was pretty fucked then too.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Yeah Ohio made a 10 year old go to fucking Indiana for an abortion. That’s part of why we legalized abortion

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

Not a violent person but I genuinely want to break things whenever I’m reminded of that. Just unbelievable from every direction, from people who preach about caring for children.

[-] Tolos@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Republicans have never cared about children.

Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.

  • George Carlin
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[-] pacoo2454@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Republicans are scaring women just fine on their own by making is less safe to be a woman

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Fucking Texas made it so that someone that presents male, whom all of their classroom mates referred to as he, can't participate in a high school play as a male character.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 52 points 1 year ago

Don’t mess with Texas, because we’re insecure about a lot of things.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances

Oh hun, you don't need to blame Democrats for that. You're spreading that message quite clearly yourselves.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 182 points 1 year ago

“Republicans need to look at all of these numbers, and really think about what’s more important. Yes, most people that are Republicans are probably pro-life,” she stated. “And we love our babies. And I love being a mother. But what’s most important? Republicans taking over. And Republicans being able to keep our country!”

Wasn't expecting them to say this part out loud.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago

Remember this when any future conservative (I don't care what party flag they're flying) tries to claim they are about any policy. If they ever attempt to come up with a policy again.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've been getting vauger for decades intentionally.

Anti-abortion is going to become "childs rights" and they'll swear they'd never dream of outlawing abortion until they think they can get away with it.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Rofl Fuck them babies! Power above all else!

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So "killing babies" isn't okay as far as medical, financial/home stability concerns...

But it's ok if it's about winning elections...

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

They're being really blatant about it all of a sudden. Is this sort of statement effective on Republicans voters? Do they not have any sort of cognitive dissonance when hearing one of their beloved Fox and Friends anchors saying this?

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Need cognition to have cognitive dissonance.

[-] hogunner@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago

My crazy prediction is the only lesson the GOP will take from this is that they have to try to steal elections even harder.

Keep voting at every legal opportunity you can people and great job yesterday!!

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

It's not enough to vote.

We need to be vigilant as we enter the presidential elections next year. Keep a close eye on secretaries of state or whomever certifies election results.

2020 was a test run for the Alt-right and they have learned where the weaknesses are in the democratic process. They will most certainly attempt to steal the 2024 election by any means necessary, up to and including violence.

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[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."

  • David Frum
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[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 145 points 1 year ago

“Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

  • Sean Hannity

I think the GOP did that themselves last year in regards to the 10 year old girl who had to cross state lines into Indiana to get an abortion.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

And don't forget the "life of the mother" exceptions in places like Texas that can only be triggered if the woman is actively dying. If she's not close enough to death, it is still "carry it to term or else."

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Hey, but the doctor and all the medical staff could bet their medical licenses that the legal gray area would favor them in a particular case.

Of course it might be harder to practice medicine after the hospital execs consult with legal and fire your ass.

But hey, there's an off chance that legally you could get away with saving the life of the mother before death was imminent. Well, depending on the judge in Texas that day.

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Remember they were trying to push that moron Herschel Walker on people? That idiot straight up said that no exceptions were acceptable for abortion

[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean I could post the quotes of him supporting a no-exception national abortion ban and the quote of him saying that if he really paid for an abortion that there's no shame in that. But that's low hanging fruit. Instead, I'm just going for the fruit that already fell on the ground:

I’m this country boy. I’m not that smart.

  • Herschel Walker

And people say, ‘Herschel, you played football.’ But I said, ‘Guys, I also was valedictorian of my class. I also was in the top 1% of my graduating class in college.

  • Also Herschel Walker

So what we do is we’re going to put, from the ‘Green New Deal,’ millions or billions of dollars cleaning our good air up. So all of a sudden China and India ain’t putting nothing in there – cleaning that situation up. So all with that bad air, it’s still there. But since we don’t control the air, our good air decide to float over to China, bad air. So when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. And now we’ve got to clean that back up.

  • Herschel Walker again. This isn't a joke.
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[-] athos77@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago

So, I went to Faux News and looked at their front page. The very top headline is GOP Flips New York Seat Democrats Held for Decades, Causing 'Political Earthquake'.

This is followed by 29 more stories, including important stories like Couple's Viral 'Taylor Swift Jar' Has Wife Paying Whenever She Mentions the Star and Global Study Names the World's Booziest Nations - The Top Three Will Surprise You.

Finally, a full 30 stories down the front page, you eventually reach After Dismal Election Night, Republican Candidates Hammer Trump.

As an aside, it's cute how, when they want to celebrate and promote the feeling that their party is all one big happy family, they refer to themselves as "the GOP", but when they're trying to distance themselves from the party, suddenly it's "Republicans".

Anyway, well done, everyone!

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

God damn dude, I'm sorry you had to look at that. Thank you for doing a dirty job so someone else didn't have to.

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[-] Ibex0@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

We all remember that 10-year-old rape survivor in Ohio and the repugs who demanded she give birth to her rapist's baby.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

I'm just going to point out that, in a bunch of states, if you give birth to your rapist's baby, the rapist can get parental visitation rights.

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[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Maybe instead of worrying about gaining power through whatever means necessary they actually try doing what their constituents want?

They don't have a party they have a coup in search of a country.

[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

They don't have a party they have a coup in search of a country.

Brilliant

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago

Hannity: "Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don't want abortion legal under any circumstances."

Nah, you guys are doing just fine on that without any help at all.

While the other cable news networks stuck with live special coverage for the rest of the evening, Fox News decided that its audience needed a break from the deflating electoral results for conservatives. After Hannity signed off at 10 p.m., Fox aired its regularly scheduled broadcast of “comedy” show Gutfeld!, which was pre-taped and didn’t make any mention of the elections.

Gotta protect their snowflakes from any hint of reality until they can figure out how to spin it properly.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

It's so hilarious to see these people still acting like the dog that caught the car.

The forced birthers, oops, I mean, "pro lifers" need to shut up for a little while and repeat this mantra in their heads, over and over until it fucking sinks in: "Roe [*] WAS the compromise. Roe WAS the compromise".

[*] The thing they worked for decades to destroy.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Nah, I'm fine with them continuing to announce their anti-abortion views. Politically it costs then elections, and in real life it helps identify the idiots.

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[-] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

You rightoid fuckers HAVE NO POLICIES outside of schadenfreude and bogeyman flavor of the month fearmongering. Conservatives are incapable of governance, and a lot more people are finally catching on.

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Oh and tax cuts for billionaires.

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[-] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

I still don't think that the full impact of COVID is being accounted for in polling and voter outcomes. Yes the first wave hit blue areas hard and fast due to population density but with the vaccine and the ever growing amount of time it has been available I have to imagine it is almost exclusively hitting red areas now. COVID has not gone away but vaccinated people aren't dying at nearly the rate of the unvaccinated of which that group is pretty exclusively GOP or at least Maga. When some of these elections were coming down to the thousands of voters 3 years ago what happens when thousands of dedicated GOP voters are now dead?

[-] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did the math a few years ago because I couldn't find anyone else who had published it. This is rough and IANAM (mathmagicman).

Every single day 8,000 boomers and above die, and 12,000 people turn 18 and those numbers are actually accelerating. If you use existing data to estimate conservative/liberal and likely voters within those groups it works out to a delta of 10,000 per day on a national scale. That's 5,000 votes switching every single day. That might not seem like alot. Because it really isn't. Out of 155 million votes cast, 10,000 is .006 percent. But here's the thing. It's cumulative. And it just doesn't stop. It is relentless. it's 300k a month, 3.6 million per year. And that pace is accelerating. Between 2020 and 2024 it's a 15 million vote difference. By 2028 it's 30 million. It used to be that people age into conservatism. But that is not happening with millennials. The demographics are changing, and changing quickly. The most conservative group in the country is dying. While the most liberal group is rising.

We just have to hold on to democracy for a few more years. This will all be behind us. Another 10k today.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago

I have a feeling you "aged in to conservatism" because that's when you finally had money and humans are generally shit when it comes to "fuck you I got mine" but speaking as a millennial, that's just not happening. My generation's retirement plan is to die at our desks hopefully in a way that creates a lot of work for our bosses. Although on the less cynical side of things, I also tend to think that generally people are becoming more tolerant over time.

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

To offer my trivial little analysis:

The GOP has happily made themselves into the Trumpism party even in elections where Trump isn't even running.

Those hard core Trump supporters are only interested in Trump himself (just like Trump is only interested in himself), and aren't as likely to bother if he isn't personally involved. To all but the Trump die hards, Trump is odious and that stink has rubbed off to make his detractors very active to fight the GOP at large.

I fear that next year Trump will bolster GOP votes with his fanatics.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Fuck the republican traitor filth. Fucking worthless parasites.

[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone voting republican, especially after Jan 6th, directly opposes democracy. If large scale organized violence aginst elections isn't a breaking point for you, then I don't/won't/can't trust you.

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[-] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

While the other cable news networks stuck with live special coverage for the rest of the evening, Fox News decided that its audience needed a break from the deflating electoral results for conservatives. After Hannity signed off at 10 p.m., Fox aired its regularly scheduled broadcast of “comedy” show Gutfeld!, which was pre-taped and didn’t make any mention of the elections.

Gutfeld acting as a conservative american "swan lake" might be the saddest thing I've heard all day.

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[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kayleigh McEnany actually seemed to correctly diagnose the problem. I was shocked. And then she started in on her solution:

Tomorrow, I want the House of Representatives passing legislation for men to pay women child support from the moment of conception, legislation to make the child tax credit apply to the unborn

Her solution to the vast majority of Americans rejecting GOP 'fetal personhood' extremism is to... go right back to trying to shove fetal personhood in through a back door. They really do think everyone else is even dumber than they are.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Her idea to increase SNAP funds for young mothers and add child support for pregnant women isn't that bad. The funny thing is, Republicans will never go for it. They're not a party of policies, they're a party that proposes "gotcha" bills that mock government and tax cuts.

There's no way Republicans will support any of her ideas. It's funny that someone on Fox News doesn't understand that.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago

I just want to point out that, nationwide, moms for liberty candidates lost 92% of the elections they were involved in. America HATES MAGA

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