Obama, but he reads creepypastas:
Get no sleep here
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I pop into reddit's ufo community from time to time and it's 
the subreddit. If I had a dollar for every guy that pops up and says "oh yeah I know alllll the secrets but oops tee hee can't tell you!" I'd be a rich man.
I think the only real way we're going to get disclosure is through a country like China or Russia.
edit: wait why are the numbers the wrong way around? this is very inconvenient when the thumbnails don't load in the menu.
No, he's just watching his friend win the shooting contest.
Of course, these communities only serve as large distractions to divert attention from the great crimes that our governments are complicit in, such as white genocide in South Africa. As soon as there is more awareness among internet users, there suddenly is a coincidetally perfectly timed discovery about aliens. The foreign policy blob funds these so-called scientists to ensure the US's continued support to the black-majority government in South Africa, while the woke media does the job of spreading these falsifications and "scientific" rumours.
Literally a religion with articles of faith so yes
What are your thoughts on the Cash/Landrum incident?
I like the one user's comment. Experimental USAF craft. All of the symptoms, skin pigmentation/finger-nail loss, etc I would all associate with radiation exposure.
D.O.E has some crazy shit going on, but I genuinely don't believe that we have made contact or have had contact with any actual extraterrestrial intelligence.
If we did, I would bet quite a bit of money on artificial intelligence rather than biological.
Definitely agree regarding the radiation exposure. It's difficult to argue that they didn't encounter something real, physical and exotic. I don't believe faith can turn oneself into a Hiroshima victim. I also doubt that hoaxers would be able to get their hands on nuclear material and be willing to nearly kill themselves with it.
I also agree that there are likely black projects out there with wild shit going on. The plausible explanations (which comport with their record of events) are, IMO, an experimental military craft (as you say) or an NHI craft.
It's curious to me that the military would choose a public highway in Texas to test fly their hardware when they have millions of secluded acres in the Southwest reserved for that very purpose. Another detail somewhat more consistent with the latter explanation is the fact that the craft was accompanied by, at first, nothing, and then minutes later by an overwhelming number of conventional military aircraft. That's how airspace intruders are greeted.
Frankly, the real reason I even entertain the more extraordinary NHI explanation has little to do with those two circumstantial details; it's the preponderance of so many other cases like the Travis Walton incident, the Lonnie Zamora incident, the Betty and Barney Hill case, testimony from Mercury and Apollo astronauts Gordon Cooper and Edgar Mitchel, and especially the mass sightings, like the one that happened in Zimbabwe in 1994 in which sixty children from the Ariel school reported seeing the same beings and still stick to their story thirty years later.
Edit: As well as the leaked and FOIA'd government documents (best compiled by Richard Dolan). And also the sightings which preceded the founding of the United States.
Things like this are no different than miracle stories. I have no way of knowing what if anything these people actually experienced. If they’re telling the truth they don’t know any better than I do what actually happened so they interpret it according to their UFO faith. They have no way of demonstrating what happened let alone what the explanation is so I’m under no obligation to take it seriously.
The fact that they were disfigured and treated by medical professionals for acute radiation syndrome is physical evidence which obliges me to take it seriously.
Betty and Vicky interpreted the encounter (at least at first) according to their Christian faith—they did not believe in UFOs, and I'm not aware of either of them ever having claimed to have encountered a "UFO" (in the traditional sense).
Neither of the women held a prior belief in extraterrestrial visitation, so they relied upon their religious beliefs for an explanation. Vickie, a fervent Christian, believed that Jesus would emerge from the glowing object and told her hysterical grandson to look toward the dark part for Jesus.
The book only states that their lawyer sued the US government on their behalf, presumably because someone in their orbit believed that they could convince a jury that they had encountered military hardware and recoup their medical expenses.
Maybe the physical symptoms happened, maybe not. The except provided was completely unsourced. I just have no reason to take this at face value yet.
The source is ISBN: 9781632650658 (as per my original link)
No I saw that, I mean there are no citations in the text itself. Also this book looks like Bible code levels of unhinged so there’s also that.
Ah, I gotcha.
I believe the bulk of the case information is sourced from MUFON, an organization with which the co-auther (Marden) is affiliated.
Description of MUFON from chapter 1
The closure of Project Blue Book left the responsibility for investigating UFO reports to civilian UFO organizations that systematically collect and investigate UFO sighting reports.
The Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena have long since closed. This leaves the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), which has a computerized case management system that collects and investigates UFO reports from around the world. To date thousands of reports have been systematically collected and investigated by trained MUFON volunteers. Each month, MUFON issues a statistical report of UFO sightings from around the world. Monthly reports range from 600 or so, upwards to 1,000. In September 2015, 985 reports were registered on MUFON’s case management system: 769 were observed in the United States, 61 in the United Kingdom, and 53 in Canada. The remainder was divided among 49 countries with at least one UFO being reported in each. Of the objects sighted, 296 were reported to have been less than 500 feet away from the witness. One hundred forty-two of these were an estimated distance of less than 100 feet away from the witness. There were 50 landings, hoverings, and takeoffs, and one nonhuman entity was reported to have been observed. In any given month, a significant 10 to 13 percent of the objects sighted are estimated at less than 100 feet from the witness.
These are not distant lights in the sky. Yet this information reaches only a small segment of our population. The failure by mainstream media outlets, to report accurate UFO information is a multifaceted problem.
Direct, recorded testimony of Cash and Landrum's account is readily available. Their injuries were documented in photographs, local newspapers, medical records, and their public court filing.
I totally understand, comrade, I used to feel the exact same way.
I'd argue that the principal reason for that perception is due to a decades-long campaign of relentless social programming. IMO the book is at its best when making this case through its investigation of several unscrupulous, high-status, and high-profile academics with ties to the national security state, namely, Donald Menzel, Philip Klass, and Edward Condon.
Leftist anti-imperialists are acutely aware of two principles: 1) Americans are the most propagandized people in history, and 2) No one is immune to propaganda. Any comrade who truly internalizes these axioms is willing to critically examine things they once dismissed as lunacy.
I share your aversion to faith-based reasoning. My first career was in the natural sciences, as was the book's co-author (Friedman). Frankly, the only reason I picked up the book was because I was challenged to do so by someone who seemed otherwise level-headed. If you have an interest, as I do, in testing your pre-existing beliefs with new information then I'd politely extend the same challenge you to.
Definitely looks like radiation sickness. I'd be happier with a lot more background on where and when and under what circumstances these photos were taken but it's clear something happened. I'd still not be inclined to take their own account at face value and I'm definitely sure MUFON is not a disinterested party. I think accounts like these share the same problem with miracle accounts. Whether or not they actually happened, I just don't know of any epistomologically sound way to differentiate between the two. I just have an extreme mistrust of peoples' accounts when they involve something breaking the laws of physics, be it a UFO or a faith healer (and a lot of this has a lot to do with the fact I'm a former evangelical christian who was told lie after lie after lie about the latter).
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I’d tell you why that is but due to some vague, shadowy group that I won’t ACTUALLY name but give vague hints about, I can’t tell you.
I endorse Stanton Friedman and Richard Dolan
Yeah it all sucks. You can just get in on the ground floor of the grift and sell alien kitsch and knickknacks and bullshit and that’s about the end of the harmless fun.
To be fair, I think a lot of experiencers are earnest. I think a rather large portion of them believe what they experienced was real.
Imagine, if you will, that you’ve just had what you believe is a genuine encounter/experience. Where do you go? Who do you tell? We don’t take the issue seriously — likely due to a concerted effort on behalf of US government to smear experiencers because experiencers were actually 1: exposing US defense tech they inadvertently witnessed or 2: genuine uap/nonhuman-extraterrestrial intelligence experiencers and the gov’t is terrified.
So they turn to the only people who will listen to them: the grifters. These poor people get exploited over and over, and many of them just kind of end up having their lives ruined.
And look, I’m not saying any of this is real, just that many experiencers are likely genuine. The grifters are also likely arm-in-arm with US intelligence, and most of the national discourse is a distraction/psy-op of some sort. To what end, though, is unclear. Still having a tough time wrapping my head around what the psyop would be during the “grusch era” so-to-speak, especially with so many libs showing genuine interest in the subject (AOC in particular, but also chucky s., killibrand, moskowitz, etc.).
Edited to say: an abundance of “experiencers” are rural people and I have entertained the idea that this might be a coordinated psy-op to deepen the urban-rural divide. Though, there are several high profile U.S. UAP sightings/experiences that are counter to this notion (east coast “drone incursions,” phoenix lights, etc.), so iunno, I’m just talking out my neck I guess.
