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I pop into reddit's ufo community from time to time and it's fell-for-it-again the subreddit. If I had a dollar for every guy that pops up and says "oh yeah I know alllll the secrets but oops tee hee can't tell you!" I'd be a rich man.

I think the only real way we're going to get disclosure is through a country like China or Russia.

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[–] GnomeGodsGnomeMasters@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be fair, I think a lot of experiencers are earnest. I think a rather large portion of them believe what they experienced was real.

Imagine, if you will, that you’ve just had what you believe is a genuine encounter/experience. Where do you go? Who do you tell? We don’t take the issue seriously — likely due to a concerted effort on behalf of US government to smear experiencers because experiencers were actually 1: exposing US defense tech they inadvertently witnessed or 2: genuine uap/nonhuman-extraterrestrial intelligence experiencers and the gov’t is terrified.

So they turn to the only people who will listen to them: the grifters. These poor people get exploited over and over, and many of them just kind of end up having their lives ruined.

And look, I’m not saying any of this is real, just that many experiencers are likely genuine. The grifters are also likely arm-in-arm with US intelligence, and most of the national discourse is a distraction/psy-op of some sort. To what end, though, is unclear. Still having a tough time wrapping my head around what the psyop would be during the “grusch era” so-to-speak, especially with so many libs showing genuine interest in the subject (AOC in particular, but also chucky s., killibrand, moskowitz, etc.).

Edited to say: an abundance of “experiencers” are rural people and I have entertained the idea that this might be a coordinated psy-op to deepen the urban-rural divide. Though, there are several high profile U.S. UAP sightings/experiences that are counter to this notion (east coast “drone incursions,” phoenix lights, etc.), so iunno, I’m just talking out my neck I guess.