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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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Can someone translate the rest?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 year ago

Tom: How can I get to the toilet?

You: Can you speak Chinese?

Tom: Yes of course

You: 那我們說中文吧 "Then let's speak in Chinese"

Tom: 好的,沒問題 "Okay, no prob"

You: 前面右轉直走100米就到了 "Turn right then walk 100m and you'll arrive"

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

Now that teaching English is being phased out in China, this is the correct answer

[-] profoundninja@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Really, any reason in particular for this change?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Geopolitics. Learning English was always forbidden behind the Iron Curtain. You may argue that it does not exist anymore but how do you explain this?
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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's just demonstratively wrong. I've got plenty to criticize about China, but I personally know multiple people who got offers to teach English over there with a very, very basic understanding of Chinese

They most certainly prize speaking English without an accent... I'm not saying it's a good deal, but they most certainly encourage the program

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'd explain it by saying they're attempting to "rebuild pride in their Chinese heritage". After years of Western culture being equated with prosperity, they're pushing to build a new national identity more convenient for them

Many countries have efforts to try to preserve their culture against American media - like France limits the amount of English songs on the radio. They still teach people English aggressively in schools - it's the primary language of trade and technology

The PRC just wants it both ways. They want the advantages of globalization and speaking the international language, but they want it to be culturally stigmatized too

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tom:你们会不会说中文吗

你: 是的

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

i did the same in primary school, the result was the same as in the post lmao

[-] outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Me if I was Chinese

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

I would have had Tom speak Cantonese, throwing it all into chaos

But I know neither that nor Mandarin, so

[-] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I am not.mistaken those are pronounciation and oral differences, the written chinese remains the same (traditional vs simplified is something that could be applied tho)

[-] NoobCakes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Broadly speaking this is correct, but there are words that see more common usage in one dialect over the other, so reading a sentence written with chinese characters could inform you which dialect it is meant to be read in.

An incomplete example of this for someone who is more familiar with english would be detecting whether the author of a sentence is british or american based on the usage of different words with the same meaning e.g. torch vs flashlight.

Both dialects/variations of english share the same written alphabet but still maintain distinct differences that can be detected on paper based on key word usages (or even spelling in this case e.g. metre vs meter).

I say this is an incomplete example because the spoken variations between english dialects are generally not wide enough that one is incomprehensible to the other, but I think it helps demonstrate my point to people who are more familiar with latin/germanic languages. There are also some dialects of chinese that are relatively close wherein speakers of one can understand speakers of another. But in the case of cantonese and mandarin specifically, they are relatively dissimilar when it comes to how they are spoken.

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