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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What legacy? A podcast and some college lectures? I’ve never heard of the guy before all of this, I can’t help but think there may be some other Americans more deserving of honors.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've taken shits more deserving of honors

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There were people killed the same day far more deserving than Kirk. honoring him insults them all.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With how over-the-top all of their admirations and praises are of this cunt, his assassination just reeks of false flag by the administration to start a war. I truly wouldn't be surprised if Trump, Vance, or Thiel ordered this.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they did I think they'd have planted some kind of evidence to tie the assassin to the left. But maybe that seemed too obvious as a false flag idk.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

No time and no point if they can just invent stuff after the fact

What?!? when did SpaceNoodle's poop die? 😢

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The pawns think he was just a devoted Christian and was killed for his faith, so they now have to proclaim their faith harder to stand up for themselves

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

95 Dems declared themselves neonazis.

Never forget. Never forgive.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's just political strategy to avoid getting dragged. This legislation is passing no matter what they do. By voting en masse like this they eliminated a cudgel the Republicans were going to use against them. There's a lot to be pissed at Dems about but the idiocy going on here is not them coming out of the closet as neonazis, its Dems backed into a corner doing what they can to get out of it. Congress is always stupid like this, it's how the game is played.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Capitulating to Nazis is how you win the game!

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[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago

Bend the knee, kiss the ring, lick the boot.

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

95 House Democratic Traitors, more like.

The one who is Trans Rep is the one that tugs me the most here. You now have a motivated group after this assassination, who is now branding your group as 'terrorist' and assuming now transgenders are mass-shooters. Yet you're voting to honor the legacy?

I don't understand this stance about what integrity and honor that there is, to co-exist with bigoted people like that, who work against your interests. Do you think this is going to alleviate things? No, it won't. They'll be calling for your head next, McBride, hope you feel dumb about this.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

they work for the continuation of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie
the only reason to be outraged by this is if you believe the ridiculous kayfabe that the democrats and republicans have opposing interests

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Eh. Maybe she’s just trying to keep the peace. From what I understand she’s had some success in keeping anti trans legislation at bay in her jurisdiction. It could be she feels that making a stink over Charlie now would make things worse.

Not that I agree, it just must be tough being an openly trans public figure. Right hates her no matter what, left expects perfection since she’s so visible. Hard to criticize her over this

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Appeasing your oppressors doesn't make you a hero

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Do we have any heroes in American politics at the moment?

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

No, because the definition of a hero involves not being part of the cynical political class.

Heroes must emerge from the working class

This ain't no place for no hero

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

No, but it could keep her fighting for her constituents and their rights a little longer. They might just be being careful with what battles they pick. We all know trump would have ordered a national day of honor even if it didn't get a single vote.

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[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Nevile Chamberlain ass.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 28 points 4 days ago

Bunch of cowards as always

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they're about to hand Donald his government again, even though they have the power to shut it down.

Dems are fascist too.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Nah. They don't have the backbone or conviction to be fascist.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m changing my voter registration to independent

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago

Sure, and you should also engage in political action outside of electoralism if you aren't already, because it's blatant at this point that the game is rigged.

We know from the first term that Trump is willing to use political violence to stay in power, and this time their backers came in with a plan. Voting is not a solution, merely one tiny action.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

What took you so long?

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

95 traitors and cowards. american leadership is weak and pathetic.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

lol this bill is just a bait from the republicans as it seems. If you vote yes, you vote for making Kirk a hero, if you vote no you vote against stopping political violence (the other part of the bill condemns political violence) so republicans can say "see left supports political violence". If you are a democrat you lose in both cases (which is the better of two bad outcomes is debatable). Fucking politics is and has always been a game of thrones serving the interests of the powerful but it is even more so with republicans in charge.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago
[–] WilliamA@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 days ago

The legacy of bigotry and hatred towards "non-Americans" 💥 🔫 🇺🇸 🦅

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

all hail saint charleton of kirk

Sarah McBride is the Jon Fetterman/Krysten Sinema of the trans community..

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago
[–] Scirocco@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have been having the same reaction as y'all over this all day.

I went to see how my rep voted (had a pretty good idea already) and incidentally found the actual text of the bill

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/hres719/text

The front half of it is a load of fascists dick sucking, of course

But that's all in the "whereas"es which are not the meat of it.

The main bits are a fairly level condemnation of political violence and assassinations.

I was all set to fire of a testy email and donate (more, again) to the primary challenger.....

But then i read the statement on the resolution and why he voted for it. Not sure I agree, but there is some logic there.

https://hoyer.house.gov/media/press-releases/hoyer-statement-resolution-charlie-kirk

All of the votes are shown on this page: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h282

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Voting ain't defeating fascism.

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