when's 
going to call it genocide?
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My money is on never. No matter if there's ICC action or global agreement. Maybe, maybe you might get some mealy mouthed thing like "this tragedy, which the ICC has ruled a genocide" far too late. But at best he's too enraptured with the idea of an Israeli state in some vain hope it can one day be more socialist Kibbutz inspired than overtt Zionazi concentration camp state. Plus honestly at this point I think he's a grumpy old man who actively resents the idea of giving ground to younger pro-Palestinian people who he sees as making problems for his comeback campaign.
I remember Chris Hedges recalling an anecdote of a conversation he, Bernie, and Kshama Sawant had about moving a third party and Bernie responded that he didn't want to be pushed out like Ralph Nader was. i.e, his career was more important than actually trying to start a movement.
Dude you're gonna retire in like 2 years anyway just dooo it!
Turns out it actually was not us, him :(
So, the obvious question becomes, "Now what?" Are we going to see actual movement from Russia, China, or really anyone in green on this map:
Or is it just going to be business as usual? The cynic in me knows its going to be business as usual.
Why is France green on the map? Did they already vote on the UN on this?
Zoom in on the left unc
Oh, its one year ago, 2024.
- this year Canada and Australia want to join I heard?
- how was France/Macron saying they where going to accept it now this September, when they already accepted it in 2024?
This was a vote on the occupation, I think the new thing with France is recognizing Palestinian statehood
And liberals will ignore it or pretend China made them say this
Nah, they'll trot this out and use it as a cudgel against Trump
They will conveniently ignore that
A. Most of it happened under a Dem admin and
B. Said Dem admin subverted Congress to keep sending Israel military hardware to use
And we'll get a bunch of op ed thinkpieces written by people with 600 funko pops about how Harris would totally have prevented all of this
Israel has already said the UN Commissioners are "working as a Hama proxy." i'm not even kidding.
If an Israeli stares into the sun until it hurts their eyes the sun becomes a Hamas proxy
four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians
liberals will interchangably argue we would have had a moderate 3 of the genocidal acts or an efficient 5 of the genocidal acts with Kamala, depending on how bloodthirsty they think the audience is
Ignoring the fact that you only need to do ONE for it to be considered a genocide.
So what happens to that whole law about not supporting genocide? Obviously they've been ignoring it this whole time but now that it's "official" will anything change?
The UN says it cannot make a legal determination as to whether a situation constitutes genocide under international law. It says a situation is referred to as genocide only after a competent national or international court has declared it as such.
Nothing ever happens
The democrats will use the g word in their condemnations of the individual persons of Donald John Trump and Benjamin Middlename Netanyahu
Oh so they're going to do something, right 
Past tense 
The Israeli military launched a campaign in Gaza in response to the unprecedented Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 were taken hostage.
At least 64,964 people have been killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry, whose figures are seen as reliable by the UN.
Love to qualify the sourcing and reliability of one number and not the other