I've seen people die in person, like getting stabbed and it felt bad. Fun fact about me I was present at the 2019 London bridge stabbing, the one where the assailant was subdued with a fire extinguisher and a narwhal horn and two people died. Yeah it felt bad to be in that situation and see that, because they seemed like normal people who probably didn't deserve it.

I'm probably evil though because when I saw Kirk get ventilated I just laugh. The gore part didn't bother me, maybe I'm numb to it? Like I've also seen the one where Budd Dwyer shoots himself. I had a misspent youth on the internet so I've seen beheadings and stuff, I don't know.

I feel nothing other than joy that he's gone. He deserves it. I keep getting told this is a disgusting and disturbing opinion to have. Ok then is most of society disgusting then? Because we seem to tolerate the deaths of untold scores of poor people, Palestinians, trans people etc. But Charlie Dipshit gets put on a pedestal because he's a nice Christian white boy I guess. Fuck this country

It sucks that they won't have a father. Know what would have sucked worse? Having that for a father.

It's a little wierd for me because I really don't have that emotional reaction most people have to it. Like omg blood coming out of him (???). Idk I don't feel anything nearly as strong as most people seem to be. I could see something a lot more graphic of him and I just don't emphasize. He deserves it. Fuck him. I didn't feel repulsed or anything watching the video. Idk if that's an ND thing or a, I've watched gore before thing.

And yes, exactly. This is what school shootings look like to. This is what Gaza looks like. Where's the outrage from these people?

I personally find nothing wrong with acknowledging that it’s horrendous that his children no longer have a father.

He's probably an abusive piece of shit like all trad husbands are when the cameras are off, and it seems like they're financially secure on account of him being a popular grifter. They'll be fine.

To be honest, I don’t think most people care really. Among those that know of him and aren’t chuds, how many are really crying about it? It seems more like a media/elite reaction, of them trying to stamp out their newfound vulnerability. It’s like Luigi, except the right is pissed too this time.

he deserved it, it's good he's dead instead of spreading more hate, and i hope more nazis get got.

anyone who thinks it's overall bad he's dead is an enabler at best.

THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

[tw: SA]

i don't think it's that horrendous he wont be in their life lol

I think the majority of people just genuinely don't know how vile he was and think celebrating a public and gruesome murder is in poor taste. I know how vile he was and therefore how this is ultimately good but I am terminally online. Most people aren't.

when it comes to men like kirk, i don't really wish death upon them, but their obituaries i read with little weight in my heart. his job as a propagandist and political agitator could be considered stochastic terrorism (new term i learned today), which i can understand. there have been claims made by some that he was a simple man with opinions and a genuine desire to debate and discuss, which i think is a disingenuous way to describe his life's work. he advocated for some vile things and has a book's worth of problematic quotes and stances which i'm sure we're all aware of. but there's a certain level of nuance specifically to why his end attained so much international outcry.

i think the reason why his death has had such immense coverage is due to political violence, to put it bluntly, being very fun to watch. kirk's death got livestreamed from multiple angles with a crowd of 3,000 in attendance having to watch as a man with a voice and a mind full of ideas went limp and dropped dead in less than 10 seconds from his last word. add to that his family sitting in the crowd and the overall gruesome way he went, and you get an entire country's attention and fear and its populous all riled up, no matter if they even knew who kirk was beforehand. america is already in a horrific political climate; every day i wake up and the second i check the news, at least 5 headlines are about american lawmakers or trump doing something cartoonishly evil with millions of people working on apologetics to excuse whatever it is the toddlers in charge have done.

the last time a political actor of any kind got assassinated on live tv was probably jfk, and it's been over 60 years since he passed. as much as it's kind of gross to admit, famous people dying has always been seen as entertainment first and a tragedy second. something about our weird monkey brains makes us attracted to the macabre. i'm not the type to watch gore for fun, but something about the video of kirk getting shot is so strangely alluring that i can't help but rewatch it again, and again, and again. looking closer, zooming in on the details, trying to pick out the events as it happened. and it all happened in a split second. one minute kirk is alive, and the other he's being driven to a casket fitting.

as i'm typing this, the authorities have officially stated that they have "[the] name of person of interest". my only wish is for that person to not be a minority of any kind. even typing it out feels gross. a man was murdered in broad daylight and i'm wishing for his killer to not be on my political side? how rotten has politics gotten? but then i remember the man who was shot, and the things that man said, and the things his friends have said. then it starts making sense. disappointingly, the reaction starts making sense. and i keep refreshing the news, hoping so badly that the people in charge won't use this man's death as a reason for committing another atrocity towards people across the globe from me.

death is a scary thing. grappling with one's own mortality is one of the oldest tales in the book. it's why billions of people pray daily and place such immense faith in a life after death. it's why even thinking about not being here sends our bodies into shock. death is the one thing the brain can't rationalize. we can't really imagine death. it naturally sends humans into a panic. kirk is a mirror to all the conservatives in america and their fear of death. it hits home closer because he was just like them in a lot of aspects. to some, he was their hero. maybe even their friend. and now he's not much more than a corpse.

bottom line is: this specific incident is layered with irony, horror and absurdity. the dead palestinian kids are more straightforward. the world we live in is old and vile, and yet it keeps spinning.

Is the video online? I didn't hear about this till today and can't find it anywhere, I, uh, need to see it to mourn properly

I'm totally in agreement. I do worry a little bit about how much we cultivate and stoke up our own bloodlust here. People would do well to realise you can happily celebrate a Nazi's death while still acknowledging the fact that there are sad elements to it. That it really sucks that we got to this situation at all. That Nazi had loved ones and it sucks we don't live in a world where he could be contained and re-educated instead.

Fuck him and basically everything he ever said, but public figures are also people with complex lives. His death was good, fire the confetti, I'm all for it. But let's also not actively try to be ignorant to the realities of it either.

Admittedly, I seem to have some lack of emotional empathy in this circumstance. I also view the social fallout as a distraction 😅 My reaction is more or less "🦀, anyways --"