Yeah, imagine signing up for the National Guard and then having these child-fucking Confederates use you as a way of threatening normal Americans.
Any normal human being would feel a great deal of shame.
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They may feel bad but they'll follow orders. Pardon me if I don't care about their feelings.
In the US it was a wave of Vietnam war movies for a while that ranged from feeling bad about themselves for getting PTSD and ones trying to make it seem heroic. Also stuff like Henry Kissinger gets all the blame and practically no one else in people's discourse. Iraq/Afghanistan haven't resulted in the same level of woe is me the invader cinema as Vietnam did. Revisionist westerns had a good amount of the terrible toll on the mind of a colonizer as the great tragedy of the western US genocidal expansion
Vietnam was made far worse by the Draft. Few government institutions are as evil as a draft.
Reading articles like this just really make me lose faith in all of humanity. Maybe it's a good thing they climate change will decimate humanity, even though you can bet your ass that it will be the assholes that survive
National Guard: Quit your job. Stay a good person.
I don't really want the National Guard to consist entirely of people enthusiastic about this stuff.
You say that like unenthusiastic people will do anything about it. That's not how humans work. That one enthusiastic person fires on a crowd of peaceful protesters and all the unenthusiastic people will fire too. Every single time.
That is literally the opposite of how it works in the end stages of quite a good proportion of revolutions.
At the end of the day, people in any country's armed forces are just human people at the end of the day, and the US National Guard is quite a lot more human than most. Even in shooting wars against other nations, there are troops who decide to do the right thing. Hugh Thompson for example got a medal for landing his helicopter between Americans and Vietnamese civilians at My Lai, and telling his crew to fire on the Americans if they kept advancing.
The National Guard has fired upon and murdered American civilians multiple times. The us national guard is in no way special. You are peddling a fiction here. The vast vast majority of times Armed Forces will fire upon their own citizens with zero compunction. Often with Glee. Hell if anything by the end stages of revolutions hearts have hardened and they are more likely to fire.
Yes yes, get it all out. There, there. I can tell you're deeply learned about all of this stuff, it makes me feel a little bad that I came in with some kind of examples or anything, I'm sure there are not any more and it was just some crazy outlier.
Also, if there's one word that I really commonly hear from people who've killed other humans in the military, when they talk about their experience, it is "glee." They just glee all over the place, whenever they talk about it.
(What other examples are you even talking about? Kent State and what? I feel like I sent you into some kind of fit by bringing up the example that I did.)
I'm sorry what examples did you bring up exactly? You just sent me a link to a Google search in which three of the top results were American officials talking about how they want to fire on protesters. If that's the level of scrutiny you bring to your research I'm not surprised you don't know more. For instance the many many times US National Guards upon Union Strikers in our country's history.
You seem to have some sort of reverence for the US National Guard that has no basis in reality and I really suggest you educate yourself upon the history of our country. The ones that they don't want you to read. Not the propaganda you seem to have fallen for.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/07/09/syria-defectors-describe-orders-shoot-unarmed-protesters
https://igcc.ucsd.edu/blog/military-dissent-and-protest-when-soldiers-refuse-orders-to-use-force/
Those are on the first page of results I saw. There are lots of examples, it's a pretty common feature of the end stage of a successful revolution for the troops to see which way the wind is blowing and refuse to fire on the demonstrators.
For me, the fact that Hegseth really wants them to fire on protestors, but instead they're picking up trash and doing landscaping, indicates that there is some disconnect somewhere. Not that they're obviously horrible and will fire on protestors with glee, and the fact that Hegseth wants them to do exactly that just hasn't trickled all the way down to them yet.
I am sure there are some National Guard members who really want to fire on protestors. I think that's part of the point of bringing groups of them from deep-red states to places that are not their home to be deployed. I'm not saying some shit will not go down. But also, the fact that you're going back to the 1890s to find your examples kind of undoes your assertion that every single one of them is waiting with glee for their chance to fire on American civilians because that's exactly what they signed up for. You honestly just have no idea what you're talking about here, you're just airing your sort of vibes assessment of what you think military people are like.
By the way personal attacks don't make you seem more credible Just for future reference.
There is research on this: Generally, when talking to someone online, remaining completely respectful to someone who's spitting in your face rhetorically speaking actually makes your argument less effective.
I'm still talking factually, sure. I'm actually not making any kind of personal attack, I am just being sarcastic a little. But I am not pretending that I respect your point of view, because your point of view doesn't deserve respect. You keep getting all emotional and just repeating over and over how you are sure that it works, and I keep sending you examples and citations. We are not the same.
There you go again spitting in your face you say emotional you say. I don't know why you don't want to be honest in your personal attacks.
Okey dokey
Whining about people being rude to you online doesn't help your credibility much either.
Fun fact, you can't just quit. I tried. You can desert, but then you'd risk going to prison.
Soon enough you can just say you're trans and get out.
If they don't believe you, start acting very outwardly like it.
If you're unsure what to do, Google "Klinger".
I'm sorry, but I'm just a little rainbow to be a stormtrooper?
The Corporate Klinger Strategy
There is a 100% chance this admin makes that at least an OTH discharge if not worse.
i got under honorable conditions by not shaving and just being a general piece of shit. i didn't do anything explicitly illegal, mind, but i wasn't a good little airman anymore, followed orders to a tee, but never went above or beyond that. sergeant didn't like that very much and i was out after a few more months. didn't get the GI bill, but did manage to get VA healthcare and a disability stipend for service connected depression.
They have a good section on assisting people file as conscientious objectors.
That was actually the very one I tried to use, it was refused
If I was in the national guard and I was going be deployed to an American city I'd refuse to go and I'd make a VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, PUBLIC stand about it until they silence me.
Or stay and gunk up, otherwise you can get loyalists.
As I said months ago, current service members need to plan retirement asap to not be used as fascist tools against Americans. One can't simply quit without consequence, but you can get out sooner than you otherwise would. Get out now before you're deployed to a war.
When Trump's wars happen, and they will happen, he's going to institute a draft, or perhaps even call for mandatory military service, like Israel or South Korea. That way, they get to indoctrinate every single young American citizen before they go into the world as adult citizens.
A National Guard official acknowledged the documents are authentic but downplayed their sensitivity, saying the assessments are intended for internal use and were inadvertently emailed to The Post last week. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing an unspecified policy. It is unclear how many people mistakenly received the documents.
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I'm starting to genuinely wonder if "oops, added a journalist" is the new form of leaking...
Because it just actually happening this much is fucking insane
This was intentional. Nobody writes journalist@definitelynotthemilitaryemail.com instead of specific-name@militaryemailthatwealwaysuse.com
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Nobody writes journalist@definitelynotthemilitaryemail.com instead of specific-name@militaryemailthatwealwaysuse.com
You know that there's no super duper secret email client, right?
It's outlook, like for everyone else.
Type 2-3 letters, hit tab... It happens, just not constantly like this.
If you already have a journalist in your contacts list, then maaaayyyyybbbeeee.
I was invited to a Teams meeting about surface corrosion on the new Littoral combat ships, like, not even six months ago...
I'd never emailed any of the Naval officers before And haven't been in the Navy for over a decade.
It's concerning it's happening near constantly, but in that example I quoted it 100% happens. More likely if you've emailed them before or they're in global, but even being forwarded a chain that had a journalist cc'ed 12 emails ago could be enough to be causing this
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“Trending videos show residents reacting with alarm and indignation,” a summary from Friday said. “One segment features a local [resident] describing the Guard’s presence as leveraging fear, not security — highlighting widespread discomfort with what many perceive as a show of force.”
"Gosh, we blindly followed a fascist's orders and now people don't trust us anymore for some reason. Nobody could have predicted this!" /s
Too much of the population has been radicalized by the Ultra Extreme Left. Only thing left to do is start cracking down on dissident media and turning up the local news jingoisms to 11.
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A US Air Force recruiter emailed me this morning
I cussed her out, told her to grow a fucking back bone.
Used to never do that to military, now I don't respect them.
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