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Men and women are, on average, different enough that talking about those differences can be useful. However, there is no obligation to act like the average member of one's sex.
…or to assume that you’re one of “the bad ones” when others make generalizations
When you start making people feel the need to defend themselves you've probably gone overboard on the generalization.
When you start making people feel the need to defend themselves you’ve probably gone overboard on the generalization.
only if that generalization isn't against men and 'majority' groups. if you wanna bash white people, men, heterosexuality, etc. people pretty much give you free reign. especially in 'left' leaning spaces.
...or to make generalizations in the first place.
Look, if somebody says "ugh, women are so..." I'm going to assume they're talking about me, if they don't qualify with "some women"
This is so exactly right
exactly this is so right
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Is so exactely this right?
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So right, this is—exactly.
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I'm just here to collect my downvote.
But men and woman are from earth i think
source?
men and women are both from the planet Y'slub-ilth in the gamma quadrant, however men arrived ~7 years later.
Insisting that the puppets making them are real
You mean the hands?
Men and Women are different strictly because of cultural reasons. many of which that are inherited from religious beliefs and practices.
At the core there's not that much difference except the hormonal stuff.
how do you know that it's purely cultural? Do you have a source for this?
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People think X is good and Y is bad?
people think XX and XY are good bad.
First I’m hearing of it 🤷♂️
Sorry, maybe I'm tired but I'm not getting the shadow puppet allegory. Maybe we thought the shadows were real, like you thought the differences between the sexes were real. Okay, got it. But convinced the puppets making them are real? The puppets are real, right? Unless the metaphor is that both shadows and puppets are not real people and their anthropomorphism is all in your head? So both the battle of the sexes and the woke-ism are both constructs we should recognize as such?
Ok, think I worked it out. Thanks for coming.
there is a difference between appearance, and reality.
that's what it's about.
and yes, battle of the sexes is very much appearance vs reality. people want to believe in the mythology they tell each other about 'men' and 'women'. not the fact that we are mostly the same apart from our sex organs and some hormonal chemistry. there are differences, but they aren't as titanic as people want to believe.
Hey now, are we getting real, on the interwebs!? Ludicrous!
Edit: Oh and don't forget the people that identify as other
So the problem with this is that it's falsely equating chauvinism and mysoginy with woke and feminism.
Feminist theory spans many different ideas, but at its heart is about creating more equity between the sexes. The motivating force of feminism arose at a time where women couldn't control their bodies, their families, or even their finances. Women could even get their own credit cards until 1975.
People will claim that it's different now and that everyone is legally equal, but systemically there's still a lot of work to do. The vast majority of the hierarchical control of this country are positions held mostly by men. From politicians, CEO, lawyers, judges, and even police officers, these are all mostly men and are increasingly becoming more conservative.
You can't create equity by pretending were all equals, but then ignore the fact that laws are being passed to control only one of the sexes.
The point it no amount of bigotry will ever end bigotry
bigotry feels good. makes people feel powerful.
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I believe the poster is feminist and is saying "woke, feminist" facetiously and just pointing out a tendency of certain online spaces to subscribe to patriarchy but in the opposite direction.
believe the poster is feminist and is saying "woke, feminist
I don't think so, it's increasingly common to conflate all feminism as misandry or claim all gender analysis is inherently sexist because you are viewing an array of problems through the lens of gender.
certain online spaces to subscribe to patriarchy but in the opposite direction.
You can't subscribe to the opposite of patriarchy.....that would be a matriarchy, which doesn't exist in any modern western country, or arguably anywhere in the modern world.
This is the problem with equivocating misandry with misogyny. Yes people can be sexist towards men, but that sexism isn't the social norm, nor is it enforced through systemic or legal means.
a lot of modern feminist is a celebration of misandry and female victimhood, at least online feminism.
sexism towards men is a social norm. it's just a social norm that feminists are totally cool with
feminists generally don't think they should be discriminated against for their sex, but they also seem to have no issue generally discriminating against men for their sex, or feeling like patriarchal norms should only apply to men in their lives.
easy example is that women are disgusted by men watching porn, but see nothing wrong with reading erotica. it's bad/wrong ti idealize female bodies for sex, but totally cool if you do it to male bodies, apparently.
a lot of modern feminist is a celebration of misandry and female victimhood, at least online feminism.
A lot of men's rights advocacy is just a celebration of misogyny and male victimhood, at least online.
sexism towards men is a social norm. it's just a social norm that feminists are totally cool with
sexism towards women is a social norm. it's just a social norm that men who use refer to women as females are totally cool with
feminists generally don't think they should be discriminated against for their sex, but they also seem to have no issue generally discriminating against men for their sex, or feeling like patriarchal norms should only apply to men in their lives.
I am a feminist, I am a married man. I'm not discriminating myself....
easy example is that women are disgusted by men watching porn, but see nothing wrong with reading erotica.
According to who? Most feminist believe that women should be able to make choices about their own body and sexuality, including participating in sex work. Youre just making shitty assumptions about a topic you have no education in.
politicians, CEO, lawyers, judges, and even police officers
I do rather enjoy the kind of feminism that abolishes these.
I thought it was men that had the y.
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