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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 122 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

This version of the article misses important information from the original source Trend Force who issued a report on DDR4 prices which news sites have been quoting.

In addition to the supply constraints mentioned, the original report also cited Trump's tarrifs which alongside the manufacturing supply slump could cause panic buying in the US specifically. This is speculation but based on the possibility Trump could "issue new tariffs or restrictions related to production capacity against China. This, in turn, may trigger another round of panic buying,"

The original report was posted to twitter with "Tarriff fears may trigger further panic buying"

It's odd to talk about panic buying and not explain where that has come from. Also odd not to mention Trump's tariffs when that was a key part of the original report in June.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Panic buying == the republicans’ idea of economic stimulus

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love me some Dance Dance Revolution, but I had no idea it was coming back

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Please tell me why...do we build castles in the sky...

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

[Darude - Sandstorm intensifies]

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought this was about dance dance Revolution at first?

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

It is, this is the latest version, Dance Dance Revolution 4: G.SKILL edition.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Came here to say "Wait, aren't we on like Dance Dance Revolution 20?" DDR4 had some bangers, but shouldn't affect the solar industry.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I wouldn't waste any money on DDR4 at this point. The only excuse I could think of is if you have a motherboard that requires DDR4 and your current RAM is not working. Otherwise, get a motherboard that supports DDR5 and you're good.

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Which would also require a new CPU depending on the current setup. And rebuilding the whole PC just to upgrade the memory?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Get a new case, and fan, and maybe a liquid cooling setup too. And switch operating systems while you’re at it. Might as well upgrade to larger SSDs. And it’s a good opportunity to go down the mechanical keyboard rabbit hole as well.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

That'll be 3500, and 2 months of tweaking please.

[–] jimerson@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What stage is after 'owning more mechanical keyboards than you have excuses for using them'?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm. I’ll let you know when I figure that out because that’s the stage I am at?

[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ergonomics, forget the gaming gear and move into healthier computing. New office chair, standing desk, adjustable pneumatic monitor arms, fatigue mat, clean up wiring, vertical mouse ball, split keyboards, desk organizers. It never ends

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Split ergo keyboard is next on my list in fact

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Correct. Yes.

... But also with a lot of other perks and some downsides... if you are willing to consider a different paradigm for a pc build.

I say: Adapt, Improvise, Overcome.

I present to you....

... the Minisforum BD 795i SE.

https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-Motherboard-BD795i-SE-PCIe4-0/dp/B0DQ8WXMKP

ITX Mobo + soldered on AMD 7945hx processor, outperforms by a significant margin any standard cpu+mobo combo you could get for the current price, which is under $400 pre tax.

So thats a mobo, high powered labtop AM4 cpu, that uses ddr5 sodimm ram.

Oh and you can just slot any ole normal GPU into its PCIe x16 v5.0 slot, its got two standard SSD M2 2280 gen 4 slots you can put your existing SSD(s) in.

There you go, for your consideration, there's your upgrade/sidegrade path, or your framework for just a new build, given that GPUs now basically cost as much or more than ... everything else in a pc combined.

........

Pop out your old mobo, this thing is ITX so it'll probably fit in your old case, though that isn't guaranteed.

Grab 32gb (2x16) of 5200/5400/5600 sodimm ddr5 ram for roughly $90 to $110.

(You could go as high as 2x48gb = 96gb but frankly 95% of people will be a ok with 32gb)

Sell your now apparently appreciating in value standard form ddr4 ram.

Grab a noctua 120mm nf-f12 pwm fan for $20, or some equivalent from your preferred fan company, slap that on the massive built in cpu heatspreader, you're good to go.

Sell old cpu heatsink/fan or aio loop.

You may lose the ability to run... an extensive argb case fan setup without some finagling on that front, but who cares, you wont need all of them, this is a very energy and heat efficient cpu.

If you've got some kind of nest of internal archive HDDs, yeah, that may be a bit of a problem too, but realistically, not too many people do that, and you can put an internal HDD into a ~$20 enclosure and just turn it into an external hardrive, something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/X-MEDIA-XM-EN3451-BK-3-5-Inch-SATA-Enclosure/dp/B00ARNCYEU

Oh and also switching to this kind of paradigm, paired with say a non XT AMD 9070, this'll do basically all gaming you could want at 1440p, and will almost certainly substantially lower your total setup power draw... if you're maybe also worried about just general rising energy prices.

Which you probably should be.

You can also now consider just downsizing your rig's case, and power supply, to a portable ITX form factor, or an mATX form factor, should the idea of your PC not weighing 60+ pounds appeal to you.

There are a good number of ITX cases that will fit most full size GPUs, some via a riser cable, some not even needing one.

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[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Also get a motherboard made in Taiwan 🇹🇼

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AMD is still putting out some AM4 CPUs just because it's cheap for them to do so. They can run its chiplets off an old node, so no big deal. It's still a halfway decent budget option, though that may change with DDR4 going out of manufacturing.

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Last time I did a simulation few months ago, DDR4 motherboards (and memory if I recal) were still considerably cheaper than DDR5.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a server on AM4 that is running fine, but the 16Gigs of ram are getting tight and I might need 32. All other aspects of the system are completely sufficient. Why should I get a new CPU and board?

[–] Honzai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I think that falls under the category of "RAM is not currently working". If you need 32, 16GB isn't working for you.

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[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Shouldn't be a problem for me - I plan to skip DDR4 and go straight to DDR5, or maybe what comes after, at some point. Still running 32GB DDR3 here.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What kind of speeds you get on that old DDR3?

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure - I don't measure it. It's in my home server running Linux. It does everything I want and is >90% idle most of the time - so it's fast enough. And I just realized I lied in my original comment - my laptop has DDR4 RAM, but it's already at max. capacity so I won't have to worry about buying more.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

Ha! its almost as if we have hit a point where the new stuff is not as good as the old. DD4 is really good, but now we will be forced into DD5 and all the shit CPU and boards that come with it.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope 16 gigs is good for a while.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

I have 64 and I have rarely ever used as much as 16.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I regularly use over 16-24GB of my 32 GB, and considering I just had to replace 4 8s with 2 16s, I'm honestly kinda tempted to get another pair just to have knowing the shit that's coming down the pipe.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you must have correctly moved on from Chrome

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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

16 is minimum and 32 is recommended if you do much pc gaming, browsing, or torrenting. Things with multiple programs. A single browser and steam open. I regularly hit 16 to 20gb on mint and librewolf. I rarely never see a use past 32gb. I find that to be the sweet spot right now. Anything higher than 32 is better spent on ddr5 upgrade. Caveat being if you run some serious programs but that's overly rare even by today's software.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I have 8GB in my laptop running mint, its used for browsing, office work, 3D print slicing, and occasionally I torrent a file from it...it is absolutely no issue whatsoever and it never even breaks 4GB use unless it's actively slicing a 3D model. 16GB minimum I can agree with for gaming, but for desktop use as mentioned above you can easily get by with less.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You can run it on 8GB. Doesnt mean you won't benefit from more.

Your system outsources the memory to swap space or is memory starved and needs to unload programs.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's about 50€/16GB over here in France. DDR5 goes for 75€ and upwards. Used is a bit cheaper, especially for the SODIMM.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That reminded me that this exists.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Wow. I wonder how well that'll work out, like stability, need to lower frequency...

[–] Hond@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Aw man, i saw 32gb DDR4 for 50€ a few months ago. Now its at 90€.

Good thing is that i just dont need more ram right now.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Did this also happen when DDR3 was phased out?

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It happens every time different types of ram are phased out. The price drops for a while until excess inventory is sold off and then prices increase due to scarcity. You wouldn’t see it with SSDs because new models tend to be backward compatible.

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