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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They are dehumanizing people right now, as we speak. It has to stop. One way or another.

The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people. -- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

All dehumanizers are sub-literate neaderthals

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[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Notable exception: "Not men. Fascists."

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I aint no tankie but I was referencing this utterly cold quote from Soviet sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko.

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Nazis. I don't think there's a way around that one. The only human nazi is a dead nazi.

Edit: I think it's fair to dehumanize someone who killed a bunch of people before they die, as long as it's confirmed. The Nazis enjoyed their paperwork.

[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This was the horrifying thing about the nerenberg trials, not that the Nazis were somehow inhuman shape changers who condemned millions to slavery, torture and death, but the fact that they were regular hamuman beings with regular families, thoughts and desires who condemned millions to slavery torture and death.

It is known as "the banality of evil", the point of the concept isn't to excuse the Nazis but to make people aware that ordinary people in the "right" environment can absolutely become evil.

If you believe Nazis aren't people you are avoiding the work of ensuring you don't act like them, more critically you are avoiding the work of ensuring your friends and family and other "people" you know aren't acting like them. I don't mean hats with skulls on them and building has chambers, but I mean the intentional "othering" of people, in the Nazis time Jews, homosexuals, gypsies etc. today probably some other groups. The root of the Nazis evil is that they considered these people sub human and therefore any actions taken against them, no matter how vicious were morally correct so long as they benefitted "real people".

A similar root exists behind many of the worst institutional evils in the world today, e.g. the active genocides in Sudan and Palestine.

This is why the nerenberg trials were and are important.

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[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

human monsters are still human. if you want to defeat human evil you need to acknowledge and address it for what it is, not disavow it. you won't "no true scotsman" your way to defeating fascism.

So many times I have said this to be met with "hurr durr but you can't empathize or let fascists off easy" by people just repeatedly missing the point

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (19 children)

bullshit; of course there is. it is earned: fascists, billionaires, the IOF, the white house administration, stephen miller specifically... none of them are human beings the same way you and I are human beings. nazi lives don't matter.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I agree. Their actions dehumanize them. I do not. Their actions render them unworthy of the basic kindnesses given to humans.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

You are correct. This comment section is full of the worst moral relativist, shitty- and this is a phrase I never thought I’d use unironically- virtue signaling.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Dehumanization of groups from a position of power is bad.

Dehumanization of bad powerful individuals to make it emotionally easier to take them down may be necessary.

I don't believe in evil, but I do believe in consequences.

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[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Personally I think more murder would solve a lot of our problems but you do you.

Just saying imagine how much better the world would be if the guy who shot Trump didnt miss

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaires are subhuman and don't deserve to exist.

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