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The developer explains it should run basically everything unless "it requires strong GPU acceleration or kernel-level anticheat".
That is a lot of use cases people have for Windows only applications.
I imagine this is more for productivity apps, where gamers are going to use proton or wine.
Isn't wine meant for non-gaming apps too?
It is, but most modern software doesn't work at all in Wine. I have 2 apps (Paint.net, and SketchUp Make 2017) which don't have any real alternatives (or they suck) for Linux and they don't work in Wine.
Sure, but many of those use GPUs as well. Consider things like CAD, photo or video editing. And "office suite" things tend to have Linux-friendly alternatives or are usable through web browsers. I'm sure there will be some niche applications this would be usable for but honestly I can't think of... any.
I can think of one: Excel Macros. If this had come out before May 2022, it would have saved me from needing to dual boot for a single assignment where I needed to do data analysis using Excel just two months after switching to Linux. It was literally around 2 hours of work, or less, and the entire dual boot setup took a similar time.
A lot of music production software doesn't rely on GPU acceleration. There's also proprietary bullshit like software that controls specific hardware, like GPU control software, MIDI devices and other random devices like things for RGB control or printers. Oh yeah, and tax software, to do taxes and whatnot, most of them are windows or mac exclusive, so that would come in handy too. I used to run a full-fat windows VM for things like these, but winboat might actually be a more tidy solution.
There's plenty of examples of software that either will never be created on linux or proprietary bullshit that devs simply can't be bothered to reverse engineer for linux.
Didn't we already have this same thing with a different name? https://github.com/winapps-org/winapps
From their FAQ
With WinApps you do the bulk of the setup manually, and there's no cohesive interface to bring it all together. There's a basic TUI, a taskbar widget, and some CLI commands for you to play with.
WinBoat does all the setup once you have the pre-requisites installed, displays everything worth seeing in a neat interface for you, and acts like a complete experience. No need to mess with configuration files, no need to memorize a dozen CLI commands, it just works.
Hey, I made that. Fun 😆
I've tried both. WinBoat is on a whole different level of easy. You just download it, click next about 3 times and you have a working Windows VM providing Windows apps that run alongside your native linux apps.
It doesn't get any easier than this.
Instead of running compatibility layers, it runs a real copy of Windows using Docker and KVM under the hood.
I take it that it requires a Windows license then, I'll stick with wine.
I'd imagine a pirate's license will work too.
True, they did call it a boat after all.
I'm assuming it's using the dockur/windows image* the same as WinApps, which seems to be pre-registered ime.
dockur uses the generic keys, f.e. VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T for Windows 11.
https://gist.github.com/rvrsh3ll/0810c6ed60e44cf7932e4fbae25880df
HOLY SHIT!!! i've been needing this for years and had no idea. thank you!
I'll just get a license from the gettin' place like I always have.
I was just there yesterday, shoulda had me pick one up for you.
You can always just not activate windows. Nothing is stopping you from using it that way.
On my Linux Mint laptop Winboat installed quickly and allowed me to install and run the one program I use that requires Windows. This biggest issues were with that same app's windows when they were rendered on the Linux desktop. They sometimes couldn't be moved, resized or closed, however the same app ran just fine on the Winboat Windows Desktop itself.
The latest version is identified as an alpha release on the UI, so these problems aren't surprising. What is surprising is how well so much of this works for an alpha release, particularly how polished the installation process is.
Looking forward to using Winboat when it progresses to the beta.
For some reason I read it as WinBloat at first. Cool none the less, will make it easier to make my friends transition.
How it is different from WinApps?
From their FAQ
With WinApps you do the bulk of the setup manually, and there's no cohesive interface to bring it all together. There's a basic TUI, a taskbar widget, and some CLI commands for you to play with.
WinBoat does all the setup once you have the pre-requisites installed, displays everything worth seeing in a neat interface for you, and acts like a complete experience. No need to mess with configuration files, no need to memorize a dozen CLI commands, it just works.
Listen, I only need to know one thing: can it run Paint.\NET?
Because pretty much all my needs are met but
(inb4 anyone says anything: Krita = painting not editing; GIMP = sucks balls; PhotoGIMP = sucks less balls; Pinta sucks balls ever since they switched to GTK4; and pretty much all other options are MS Paint equivalents so also all suck balls.)
Can I ask you what "sucks" about GIMP?
Okay, so, please forgive me ahead of time for the following rant. To be blunt, you did ask. 😛
Select > Select None maybe? Anyway, I've had it happen where the option doesn't even do anything.) It completely throws my whole game off and I've never once, even once had it happen until I started using GIMP.+, -, and Shift+Ctrl+E, respectively; while most other programs have it as ctrl++; (and/or ctrl+=), ctrl+- (and/or ctrl+NumpadMinus), and ctrl+0 (and/or ctrl+NumpadEnter). Also, you cannot use tab or ctrl+tab to move to the next or previous tab, respectively, because tab is a excluded key for keyboard shortcuts. (I think I was once told it has to do with a limitation in GTK, but that's ridiculous as Pinta has been able to do it for years.) There are countless other inane defaults for the keyboard shortcuts as well, frankly.LMB or RMB to switch between the primary and secondary colors selected. You have to use X.These are only a few of the most severe frustrations, annoyances, and hair-pulling-out moments for me with regards to GIMP. I'd never have even tried it out if Pinta hadn't made the ass-backwards decision to move to the stupidly minimalistic and less functional GTK4 adwaita UI and if Paint.\NET worked. (I can't remember why it doesn't wanna work; I think it has to do with a dependency. I know it's not the .NET framework since that could be handled by Mono IIRC.)
Gimp is heavy in my opinion, no matter the desktop I opened it on It always takes a while to fully open. If I want to make a quick change to an image, crop, draw or write on I don’t want to sit for 5 minutes for the editor to open.
iirc gimp tools weren’t all that beginner friendly either.
90% of the complaints I've heard about GIMP are just because its UI and workflow are different from whatever tool they're used to. I like GIMP just fine because I learned on it. I don't even like using Krita because I feel like it's 50% gimp with a skin lol
Now I wonder if I dual boot linux / windows, why is there no software that can basically use my existing windows installation from another partition to run windows software (like, maybe load it into VM or something)?
You can. You can boot a windows partition in a VM. IIRC it is not really advisable but you can do it.
I actually find that starting a 'raw disk partition' virtual machine for Windows is one of the best ways to run it. Stops it from fucking up your BIOS and EFI when it does an update. You can restart into it when you want the 'native GPU' for games.
Of course, the even better way to stop Windows from fucking up your hardware is to not allow it anywhere near your hardware in the first place...
you can run windows software on a windows partition using wine, but it is extremely brittle, since you're going from a case-insensitive windows file system as well.
Another problem would be the dependencies and initial configuration would not be present unless the software was built with portability in mind
Has anyone got this working on bazzite by chance? Any additional steps necessary? Winapps didn’t work for me, so looking for an alternative
I wonder how well this runs AutoCad and adobe