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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 469 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Weird way to spell "How automated DMCA take-down requests are ruining the internet for everyone"

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 168 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More like "How DMCA is ruining the internet" considering these companies are just complying with the law.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it says automated takedown requests, not automated reactions to those requests.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The reactions are legal compliance

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Yes. So? How is that relevant, if we are talking about companies automating the requests with no regards for their accuracy ruining the internet? Isn't it a given?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty much my takeaway. It's not OF piracy or even enforcement of copyright, it's out of control automation.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Nah this was issue before automation as well. Low paid employees aren't particularly better than AI here nor do they care to be whe they get paid barely anything.

[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.

Morpheus, 1999

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 172 points 1 week ago (5 children)

False DMCA takedowns need to be criminalized, companies have abused them for decades now.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is the DMCA working exactly as intended. Giving companies the ability to leverage their own wealth and resources to abuse and suppress competition was always the DMCA’s goal.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup. People talking about DMCA reform, or adding penalties for false takedown requests… In reality, this is the DMCA working exactly as intended. It’s like discussing police reform, but the police are functioning exactly how the ruling class want them to.

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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Copyright in general is about suppressing and abusing competition, there's a little bit of difference now that the old Victorian-style copyright laws lasted as long as the author, more or less, and every legal action was taken through a court, not like these letters of happiness.

It's funny how we seem similar to the pre-WWI mood of "everything has been invented, abolish patents", I wonder if the "pre-WWI" part is too going to rhyme. Hope that not, of course, but most of the innovation seems to be in direct or indirect warfare (all of big tech is honestly that). And there's one nation whose elites seem to make weird destructive moves. And which is on the down trajectory in its GDP relative to the world for the last 50 years. And which has the world's biggest military spending.

After all, humans need a reminder that for the plethora of technologies that seem like a favorable to them weapon unseen before, there are also similarly many technologies that may be unfavorable to them weapons unseen before.

Nazi Germany used radio and encryption and maneuverability and wonderful air force to achieve successes, then the other sides used radars and computers and mass modular production and MLRS'es.

Perhaps the current rotting of copyright and patent system is because the elites think they don't need more natural peaceful development. Global bloodletting usually heals that kind of ideas. Some things can only be learned on your own experience.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Just allow companies to charge a small fee to process a DMCA takedown, and establish a daily compensation rate based on view counts for the uploader (cost payable by the company issuing the takedown - not the entity they represent). Suddenly you only issue a takedown for clear infringement, with the cost paid by the uploader only when clear proof is given that it is a DMCA infringement. If there is a long delay, the uploader gets more compensation, whereas the uploader is only liable for the initial takedown fee.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Just abolish DMCA and hvae companies defend their intellectual property in courts instead of bribing the government in doing it.

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[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel like the problem mentioned is like a drop in the ocean compared to the enshitification of Google as a whole. Google has been almost unusable even if this didn’t happen.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Google, sadly, is truely dead.

I moved on to Duckduckgo, because the results really aren't worse. Aren't better either though.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I find them better. Most of the time. Google is needed every now and then.

DuckDuckGo gets to the point and skips the seo stuff.. Mostly.

Although at this point search is nearly useless no matter what you use.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

How do you think DDG 'skips the SEO stuff'? They don't have their own index, they are a meta search engine and the indices they rely on are subject to SEO efforts of the various pages

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[–] Stubb@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google's control over the internet will harm all users as they scram further to find places where profit can be squeezed more and more until they're functionally bankrupt.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

not just internet, they are going to prevent android users from installing any programs they dont approve first. So most likely goodbye f-droid and any opensource program

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What’s funny is google’s bullshit will likely result in a Linux phone that doesn’t suck before we ever see mainstream Linux desktop adoption.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 66 points 1 week ago

So ... The piracy is not actually taking down anything.

[–] _druid@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Villify women making money for themselves, and demonize people getting shit for free, and make it sound like these are problems for the common person!

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 46 points 1 week ago

The DMCA is what you get when you get greedy media and Internet companies to write legislation for lawmakers that have no idea what any of that means, while in the background the people have not had a chance to use any of it. It should have come with an expiration date 10 years from signing and should have been redone now that we are actually using the stuff.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just the piracy of OF is ruining the internet and not OF as a whole? I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

[–] sip@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

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[–] black0ut@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I miss when porn subs were filled with amateur and curated content instead of prostitute ads...

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but really does that even matter when the top results are just ads anyway? The problem is advertising has taken over search engines and now AI makes it even less likely people "searching" for things will even bother to click off of the search website.

DMCA takedown abuse isn't anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes... I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. "DMCA Automation is ruining the internet" or something to that effect would have been a lot better.

This whole thing is also a scam on content creators, people arent pirating content by searching for it on google, they're finding out about websites by talking to people on discord (which itself is not searchable of course) and other such services. Anyone paying for these kind of takedown services is getting taken for a ride.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

DMCA takedown abuse isn’t anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes… I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. “DMCA Automation is ruining the internet” or something to that effect would have been a lot better.

That's true, but if the important thing is to draw attention to this issue, this is a good way of doing it even if it's a creative interpretation of the truth.

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Advertising is ruining the internet.

Copyright and patent laws shouldn't even exist.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 20 points 1 week ago

It's fuckin ruined already.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Pick a search engine that doesn't hide torrent

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“We don't really review it [the list] because we are an agent for them,” Ananad said. “For the requests that we send out ourselves, usually they get reviewed, but sometimes they [clients] do a search by themselves, and they come across some content and they flag it and they're like, ‘We want this taken down.’ We don't review that because that is something that they want taken down. I'm not particularly sure about this case, but that is what happens. What we planned on doing was also reviewing these but it's usually not very fruitful, because the user is very sure they want that claim. And even if we say, ‘Hey, we don't think you should do that,’ they're like, ‘We want to do it. Just do it because I'm paying you for this.’ And if we just say, do it yourself, that kind of takes away the business from us. So that is basically how it works.”

What?

[–] nullroot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They're a cog in a broken machine that needs grease like every other one. It's all just business speak for "why would we want to say something that would make the customer not pay us?"

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, bit of a crazy idea , but what if we accelerated the destruction of the internet, destroyed it from within before those trying to capture it were ready to take over ?

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

Yes. An AI alternative to LOIC is desperately needed, for every humanist with a computer to run and to attack the enemy with streams and streams of textual and visual garbage.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Welp, time to delist Google itself

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Delisted from Google ≠ ruined internet

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

More like how the internet has been enshittified.

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