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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 6 days ago

This is truly nothing: Aella (credited as Aella Martin) has a Bacon number of 3

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

New premium column from Ed Zitron: Why Everybody Is Losing Money On AI

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 6 days ago

one horse laugh is of greater utilitarian impact across the quantum waveform of the universe than ten thousand syllogisms

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

in which business continues cosying up to fash

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Enemy of awful systems Malcolm Gladwell is a full throated transphobe

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is it always transphobia with these kinds of people... is it because they feel racism is too risky? So they need a different outlet for hating on people based on what they believe is "science"?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago

the answer to all those is yes. To synthesise the bigger idea, as the saying goes: scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds. Gladwell caters to a huge audience that is centrist, leaning somewhat liberal (though he flirts constantly with race science and straight up racism, see his writings on Korean Air). As liberals move towards fascism, so must he. Of course, it’s the most marginalised that are going to be targeted first.

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[–] yetanotherduc@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As a CS student, I wonder why us and artists are always the one who are attacked the most whenever some new "insert tech stuff" comes out. And everyone's like: HOLY SHIT PROGRAMMERS AND ARTISTS ARE DEAD, without realizing that most of these things are way too crappy to actually be... good enough to replace us?

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[–] scruiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lesswronger notices all of the rationalist's attempts at making an "aligned" AI company keep failing: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/PBd7xPAh22y66rbme/anthropic-s-leading-researchers-acted-as-moderate

Notably, the author doesn't realize Capitalism is the root problem in misaligning the incentives, and it takes a comment directly point it out for them to get as far as noticing as link to the cycle of enshittification.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
>50 min read  
>”why company has perverse incentives”
>no mention of capitalism

rationalism.mpeg

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every time I see a rationalist bring up the term "Moloch" I get a little angrier at Scott Alexander.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“Moloch”, huh? What are we living in, some kind of demon-haunted world?

Others were alarmed and advocated internally against scaling large language models. But these were not AGI safety researchers, but critical AI researchers, like Dr. Timnit Gebru.

Here we see rationalists approaching dangerously close to self-awareness and recognizing their whole concept of "AI safety" as marketing copy.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago

So I learned about the rise of pro-Clippy sentiment in the wake of ChatGPT and that led me on a little ramble about the ELIZA effect vs. the exercise of empathy https://awful.systems/post/5495333

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Great piece on previous hype waves by P. Ball

https://aeon.co/essays/no-suffering-no-death-no-limits-the-nanobots-pipe-dream

It’s sad, my “thoroughly researched” “paper” greygoo-2027 just doesn’t seem to have that viral x-factor that lands me exclusive interviews w/ the Times 🫠

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Putting this into the current context of LLMs... Given how Eliezer still repeats the "diamondoid bacteria" line in his AI-doom scenarios, even multiple decades after Drexler has both been thoroughly debunked and slightly contributed to inspiring real science, I bet memes of LLM-AGI doom and utopia will last long after the LLM bubble pops.

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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Creator of NaCl publishes something even saltier.

"Am I being detained?" I scream as IETF politely asks me to stop throwing a tantrum over the concept of having moderation policy.

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[–] JFranek@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Shamelessly posting link to my skeet thread (skeet trail?) on my experience with an (mandatory) AI chatbot workshop. Nothing that will surprise regulars here too much, but if you want to share the pain...

https://bsky.app/profile/jfranek.bsky.social/post/3lxtdvr4xyc2q

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

DragonCon drops the ban hammer on a slop slinger. There was much rejoicing.

https://old.reddit.com/r/dragoncon/comments/1n5r2eu/a_warm_heartfelt_goodbye_to_a10_the_ai_artist_who/

Btw, the vibes were absolutely marvelous this year.

Edit: a shrine was built to shame the perpetrator

https://old.reddit.com/r/dragoncon/comments/1n60s10/to_shame_that_ai_stand_in_artist_alley_people/

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