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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

She wrote actual Nazi shit but they're still going to blame this on the left and trans people.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mainstream political discourse labels Nazis as left wing too.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Remember the Nazis were formally known as National Socialists. It’s in the name.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They used to, but I don't see so much of that anymore.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just randomly diagnosing yourself with lung cancer is certainly something

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

It sure is breathtaking.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

There's always a manifesto, my friend.

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If she was reported to have "identified as a female" then why are we using "his" and "son" here?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because the article is written by bigots

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Seems like most of the news media is doing this at the moment. Makes me livid.

Well, it's the Sunday Times. It's a stupid rightist TERF island rag, along the likes of the Daily Mail.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

yeah they don't have their shit together at all. they don't care to.

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Even most "allies" view their support more as humoring or an act of common decency than any actual endorsement of trans identities. Many folks don't actually view you as your gender. They just either respect you enough to call you the right pronouns, or they just consider it common decency.

But when a trans person does something horrible, something truly unforgivable? Suddenly that person isn't worthy of respect anymore, so there's no point in humoring their identity. If you actually believe trans identities are "valid," then you won't misgender someone, even if they're a childremoved serial killer. Cisgender women don't get called men and thrown in men's prisons if they commit acts of brutal violence. Their gender isn't invalidated, because their identity is not conditional. Most "allies" view respect for trans identities as conditional. For some, this means that true monsters are worthy of misgendering. For others, it means any time a trans person says something mean to them they're worthy of misgendering.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention they deadnamed her

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

One piece I read just started calling the suspect Rob.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago

Some people seem to adhere to the idea of "they committed a horrendous act and also died, therefore they can be exempt from our modern etiquette".

A mindset I see all the time by both sides of the spectrum. I even saw the "it" card thrown around for mere fraud once.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cis white person commits heinous crime: “This is so sad, they were probably plagued by mental health issues that they never got treated for.”

Minority commits heinous crime: “THIS IS PROOF THAT ALL OF X GROUP ARE BAD. THESE PEOPLE ARE ANIMALS AND SAVAGES. I AM ADOLF HITLER, COMMANDER OF THE THIRD REICH. LITTLE KNOWN FACT ALSO DOPE ON THE MIC.”

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think comrade is comparing the treatment of this shooter to a typical cis white male mass shooter. Since cis white male is the "default" it's never brought up as an influence on their behavior and it's not portrayed as representative of cis white males as a whole. If the person is part of a known minority group, however, their identity is used as a reason for what they did and suspicion is cast on the minority group as a whole, despite others in that group having nothing to do with whatever terrible act is being discussed. Hopefully that makes sense.

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

that isn't what was said

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I love not thinking!

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

When a minority of any sort commits an act of horrendous violence: frothingfash indecipherable slurs

When a white person commits an act of horrendous violence: Not all whites, strawman, lone wolf, unclear motives, unavoidable tragedy

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not all whites, strawman, lone wolf, unclear motives, unavoidable tragedy

That's cracker society for y'all fowks

btw, lone wolf, ain't that a term for spontaneous white-supremacist attacks, according to wikipedia

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Originally yes

Bu then they started using it to apply to non-whites as well, like noted a bit further down

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I hear that an attack is a lone wolf attack - I just quietly think to myself "yes, this is an open expression of white supremacy in this country, and this person is using such term for terrorism to downplay a pattern of terrorism without knowing the full implications of it".

Does it apply to non-whites, ofc, it does... is the original meaning still there, yes, it is to me.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

They knew her motives though.

archive.ph this: https://archive.is/LfVM8

This is a reactionary source:

  1. It is your typical rightist rag, as expected from a British background

  2. Specific charge: transphobic misgendering

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

i don't even know where to begin with this article, it's awful

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

The Nazis disavow.

Not because she murdered kids but because she’s trans.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jacob Frey, the mayor of Minneapolis, condemned online attacks on trans people after it emerged that the shooter, born male, identified as female.

“Anybody who is using this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community out there has lost their sense of common humanity,” he said. “We should not be operating out of a place of hate for anyone. We should be operating out of a place of love for our kids.

Respect this man so much.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't respect him too much, he's currently rat fucking his left opposition for mayor. It's great he's not a bigot though.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, given how gay and trans Minneapolis is, Frey is going to be vocally supportive. It's not too surprising

[–] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

fuck so not just a baseless rumor this time.