Quite a few of them talk about how it is actually great because they will spend 24/7 worshipping their Lord endlessly forever and doing nothing else, but will then turn around and say communism bad because dictators.
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What they don't realize is their god is the actual dictator
situational irony
Two things: There are actually religious people who say that communism is a rebellion against God by trying to create Heaven on Earth
Heaven only has the designated good people in it, so you don't need to worry about being made equal to the untermenschen
Heaven only has the designated good people in it, so you don't need to worry about being made equal to the untermenschen
That's the quiet part, not supposed to say it out loud
It's because the suffering is necessary sweaty, trying to imitate the perfection of heaven is sinful 
This is an explicit doctrine of Christianity, famously expressed as "Don't immanentize the eschaton."
Wait, really? Oh that pisses me off so much. I know one Christian who doesn't want me to start hormones, and like, I get they don't "agree" with me about that. But one of the reasonings they gave was "It may improve your life, but sometimes that's just your cross to bear." I have enough crosses. I feel like my schizophrenia on its own is a pretty darn heavy cross. But whatever, I guess. I plan on getting hormones as soon as I can afford it.
BeanisBrain is conflating two things I believe. To "Immanentise the eschaton" refers to, essentially, taking actions to hasten the apocalypse. You are trying to bring about heaven by creating the conditions for judgement day. It is generally a pejorative term used to criticise various Christian sects. It can refer to any action taken to hasten judgement day. While it generally is applied to postmillennialism or similar groups it could equally apply to the Christians exporting red heifers to Israel for doomsday prophecy reasons.
Postmillenarians are people who think that Jesus through his sacrifice brought about the conditions that allow us to create the conditions necessary for heaven on earth, which would then "summon" Jesus, and that Christians have a responsibility to do so. Essentially they view it as their duty to make the world "better" by living according to the teachings of christ and that this will result in judgement which they believe most of us are gonna make it through just fine by virtue of us being nice enough for jesus to come back. This is generally where you get stuff like the social gospel and Christian abolitionists. So of course some conservative Christians fucking loathe it. And there you get the criticism of it as being immentising the eschaton, and that being a bad thing because they believe they've misunderstood the nature kf the millennium.
So as i understand it BeanisBrain is either accepting the criticism of a specific doctrine done by others who disagree with it as being universal Christian doctrine, or they have misunderstood what the term means.... or I'm wrong.
Edit: This post makes it seem like that 1: postmillennialism is inherently a good thing or that I approve. It isn't and I don't. Living according to Christian rules to bring about judgement day can also lend itself to a lot of harmful social doctrines. It depends on the individual church.
2:That other Christian groups that don't fall into this don't practise "utopianism". Early Mormons rid themselves of property ownership and many early Christians held all things in common.
To "Immanentise the eschaton" refers to, essentially, taking actions to hasten the apocalypse. You are trying to bring about heaven by creating the conditions for judgement day. It is generally a pejorative term used to criticise various Christian sects.
Apparently not to evangelicals
What do you mean?
The "trying to bring about heaven by creating the conditions for judgement day" part. That's their favorite thing to do. If evangelicals are anything, it's accelerationists.
That is the basis for a lot of Christian zionism. Which further makes it obvious that there really isn't a taboo on immetising the eschaton.
Yes - and it is very much used to arbitrarily decide what actions can be deemed sinful circumvention of the holy suffering. Usually those actions that improve the lives of undesirable elements. It is just so prevalent in american evangelical christianity - it's all total depravity and original sin (only remedied by righteous toil and pain, total surrender to conservative christian dogma), until the character of murderous sex offender billionaires is called into question, then it's all about how Christ's love is boundless and infinite.
Omnia sunt communia or holding things in common is to my knowledge not viewed as a sinful concept by pretty much any christian who has read the bible, the early Christians were not sinners, but as impractical and not necessary.
religions purpose is to placate the poor from attacking the rich. Of course the paradise described is what the poor could create if they destroyed the rich. Look povos you dont have to bring us justice on earth, justice will come when youre dead! The most revolutionary thing you can do is turn the other cheek about my crimes and then die, its godly.
pie in the sky when you die. now shut up and let me eat all the pie here on earth
Also, 'killing is bad, unless the targets are Muslim', as well as 'sex is sinful, unless it's between a priest and a minor'.