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New Trump Order Among 'Scariest Things I've Seen in US Politics,' Civil Rights Attorney Says | Common Dreams
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What about them Epstein files?
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Yeah I want to out too but we are way past the point of those things mattering at all. This is s prelude to civil war. Oath Keepers will join up with the regular military and those fuckers will just start shooting because there will be no consequences for them. The blue states need to activate their NG now and have them ready.
those fuckers will just start shooting because there will be no consequences for them.
You are 100% correct. Trump has already demonstrated that even if they are charged, he will pardon them. Also, they will be wearing masks and there will be no way to prove which fascist fired the shot.
If they pull that shit in an actual state, not a district, they can be charged with an unpardonable state crime. And I'm often a naysayer against hope, but they do not have nearly enough people to demand obedience.
they do not have nearly enough people to demand obedience
Depends on who's in charge of the bombs and drone swarms. I honestly think the only reason society still exists as we know it is that none of the conservatives are yet fully confident that they have complete, unquestioning control of the arsenal. We're living in an era where it really only takes a few hundred people, maybe a few thousand, to kill millions. Hundreds of millions. Billions if they start using nukes. What do they care if they take out the people who kept the weapons working? These psychos would only have to use them once and then they'd have power feudal lords and kings could only dream of.
As horrible and inhumane as the US was during wars like Iraq and especially Vietnam, we were still constrained on some level. No matter how indiscriminately our troops were allowed to murder civilians, ultimately, indiscriminate killing wasn't the main order coming down from very top. When Vietnam finally got so unpopular that even manufactured consent wasn't cutting it for public support, we pulled out, instead of glassing the country and leaving as few survivors as possible. Again, not that Vietnam was in any way a moral war; I don't want to minimize how many firebombs we dropped on innocent people, but there was some limit. Hell, even Russia has so far limited itself in how far it'll go in trying to conquer Ukraine.
But... I'm not sure that'll be the case for much longer if these fascists are allowed to continue to control the levers of power.
Honestly, I have hope that things won't get that bad. Realistically, Trump could have easily already had his own Sturmabteilung outright murdering opposition members and doing far worse. Things are bad, but given the effectively unlimited power he's got right now, they've been weirdly reserved with how they've used it. They certainly posture and bluster like they're ready to do so, but have generally only done so in a largely performative way.
This is arguably a bigger immediate concern.
The Epstein files are the distraction. Not the other way around.
Like, seriously.
Are you daft?
He raped kids. That resonates with... Jesus Christ... SO many people.
Of all the worst people I've met, they all fuckin cared about kids.
We knew all of this TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO. Did it resonate with his base then? No?
You need to start paying attention to other news, because fascists have taken over our country
That resonates with… Jesus Christ… SO many people.
The majority of people are not getting that riled up about it even if they care. You are underestimating how bad the cognitive dissonance is in the country.
As long as business continues as usual, most people are not engaged in politics, they are just watching to see what happens. Trump isn't going to face any repercussions about it, he's literally the most powerful person on Earth and can make the whole thing go away legally, as he has done.
Trump didn't get elected despite being a rapist, he was elected because of it, because people wanted a villain on the stage because our country's brains are fried with Kayfabe/WWE spectacle and rather "see what happens" than make responsible electoral decisions.
All that aside, the national guard being used by Trump to militarize and occupy cities is a much more clear and present danger to democracy and we're STILL not getting up and marching as a country, so do you REALLY think people are going to hold his feet to the fire over an intangible, word-of-mouth crime that isn't going to amount to anything dramatic?
The epstein case is both real and a distraction. It can be both.
So, what's your point?
For starters, I don't care what you or anyone else does or says, those files are never gonna see the light of day. Wishing differently is idiocy.
However, let's go ahead and pretend differently. The files get released. What consequences will he face? He started issuing blatancy unconstitutional orders on his very first day in office, yet the military has followed his orders anyway. It doesn't matter how many citizens try to fight back - the military has far more advanced, not to mention absolutely brutal weaponry available.
But go ahead, focus your energy on something that will never happen, and would do absolutely nothing to stop those fascist bastards even if it did. Cause your dumb fucking fantasy is obviously more important than staying informed on the actual shit going on around you.
And I'm daft? What the fuck ever.
I agree
those are only 'scary' if you're listed in them.
Monday's order calls for the creation of "an online portal for Americans with law enforcement or other relevant backgrounds and experience." Agency heads then "shall each deputize the members of this unit to enforce federal law."
This is scary.
Doesn't this mean we can just dress like Proud Boys and Trump's Gestapo and no one would be the wiser? Get behind the front lines, people.
100%
Hey, at least the article didn’t seem to act like this is “a sign of the start of the descent into fascism”. That’s a big improvement over most of the articles we’re seeing acting like the US isn’t fully locked in to a fascist dictatorship already.
Beginning of the article:
An executive order signed Monday by US President Donald Trump may permit "random fascist vigilantes" to help him crack down on protests across the country, according to one prominent civil rights lawyer. The new order, which comes amid wider concern about Trump's militarized takeover of Washington, DC, directs Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth to ensure that each state's National Guard is equipped to "assist Federal, State, and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety.”
Didn't see this in the news at all...
Literal Goon squads.
Fascist Goons are not human and deserve no such rights or sympathy, and by my judgment, will never be afforded any.
Wanna find out what real, red blooded Americans think? Join a fascist goonsquad today and cover your face. Find out what it's like to be the nobody faceless bad guys in a movie, and discover your true identity and value of being a worthless tool of evil.
GoonSquads, because you don't matter.
Spoiler: The National Guard is who kills the fascist dictator at the end of this conflict.
I don't see a problem with having more State military surrounding the White House. If they do their job, Trump will be dead soon
That’s optimistic
Brown shirts
So, basically a way to form government-backed lynch mobs.
Cool. Release the pedo files.
Donald Trump could rape a child on live TV during the morning news and nothing would happen. In fact his supporters would generate excuses saying she deserved it or something.
Should they release the files?, yes.
Is it going to do jack shit?, absolutely not.
Something. Something. Something. Deep state.
-The Jackass
He wasn't elected because he covered up his involvement with Epstein. People didn't care then, they're not going to care now, especially now that he's buried the case legally and will never see a courtroom about it. People are not interested in a narrative that won't go anywhere and most people have already moved on.
Injustice sucks, it hurts. I know. But this is real and it's happening and it's a LOT of injustice and there may never be a satisfying resolution.
Now that said, using our nation's military to occupy and control the cities of political opponents is a much bigger immediate threat to everyone and everything we hold dear, THIS is the kind of action many of us were laughed at for warning people about, we were called over-reactive and accused of being unrealistically hyperbolic. And here we are, the administration is doing it and still nobody is getting up and marching on the capital. Do you think they're going to get up and march about fucking Epstein?
Sandy!!
Yes! She has unbelievably based political opinions as any horse should
I'm blind and can't read this.
Top says: Sandy says ...
Bottom says: where are the Epstein files
I’m a sighted person and I still can’t read it. Drop shadows, people!
Gettin' his personal army of brownshirts all legitimized and stuff so they can mow down any protesters and disappear any 'troublemakers'.