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I use tuta mail and tuta calendar for mail and calendar, Vivaldi as browser on laptop, and Firefox on android. Bitwarden as password manager and bitwarden auth as 2fa. Use obsidian for notes and appstore is aurora store and droidify, I use archlinux. And for "cloud" storage, actually a backup I use This USB drive not cloud Buf works for me. Still kinda dependent on proprietary messaging platforms, but I have 1 friend on signal. Also I am trying to replace YouTube with fmhy.net not exactly YouTube alternative, but has so many resources for free to study, educate myself, or just watch something out of amusement.

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[–] stat_rosa@lemy.nl 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For me it is also difficult to get rid of Whatsapp because family and work use it. I really like YouTube and am still hoping for the great next YouTube alternative. I use Proton for mail, calendar and online Drive. I use a Chinese mobile with F-droid and Aurora Store. I also have an old Pixel phone with which I'm experimenting with GrapheneOS For my desktop I'm still experimenting with which Linux is the best fit compatibility wise.

I'm currently using Brave as browser but I'm thinking of switching to Waterfox or Vivaldi.

Edit: and my DNS is from a European server.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes. Replace Chrome with Chrome with a different UI. The rest is good.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 29 points 8 months ago

And Vivaldi is not even open source

[–] jupiter2643@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I reccomend you try https://librewolf.net/ as your browser

Install these extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/

I've found I like logseq over obsidian.

And do consider installing graphine or e/os so you're not subject to google services on your phone.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

On the topic of Obsidian, I recommend the FOSS tool Syncthing to sync/fileshare Logseq, Obsidian or emacs org mode files between devices.

https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid

Note, Syncthing-fork is the actively maintained app on f-droid, not the original app called Syncthing, at least as of this comment.

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 2 points 8 months ago

i second this, @Una@europe.pub . librewolf is an excellent choice.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait, is Libre wolf back? I thought it was abandoned, nit getting updates for an extremely long time, making it dangerous to use security wise?

[–] jupiter2643@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

https://codeberg.org/librewolf :)

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Sick.

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

LibreWolf comes with ublock installed by default <3 didn't know the redirect extension!

Not sure if I would recommend LibreWolf to the average user above Firefox. Too many settings to fiddle with e.g. playing DRM material. I don't like to say it but I think most users would uninstall librewolf the moment they try to stream their favorite show and it doesn't work out of the box.

Love LibreWolf. Firefox is in a state of feature creeping. I understand the why, but don't agree with it.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

you can move to signal, but can you move your friends and family with you? like they're going to listen

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just rip the bandaid off.

90% of people I speak to either already had or then installed Signal. It's just another app to them and doesn't require deleting WhatsApp to get.

If those in the know are unwilling to move off WhatsApp why would the ignorant ever do it?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ripping the band-aid off for me would mean not connecting with 99% of the people I regularly message to.

Yeah I can't do that lol

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It's not ideal but SMS still works

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[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Matrix is good for those situations, there are bridges to pretty much everything these days.

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 1 points 8 months ago

i got my parents on Matrix. just try and explain.

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Check out SyncThing! It's a great tool for syncing files locally across multiple devices and platforms. Data is encrypted.

I went from KeePass->self-hosted bitwarden->KeePass synced with SyncThing. This is the best and easiest solution for password management, imho.

[–] Nerdulous@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm currently using bitwarden with a vault warden docker backend and I'm wondering why you feel that keepass is a better setup. What made you make the switch?

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

It was easier for me than dealing with docker. Everything is local. I did do the same as you but I found that going P2P was easier and less expensive than running a server at home. I used to experiment slot with self hosting but now my primary use is media sharing. I only need my server to run when I'm home, as I only use this media at home. So I have a powering schedule to save power, but that also mean that I would not have access to my bitwarden server 24/7, which I need to.

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

This is the way 🤘🏼

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why anyone would ever subject themselves to the torture of using Vivaldi. It's made by developers of Opera - the most bloated, spyware-infested web browser on the planet. Sure, it may be slightly better, but we'll never know for sure, since it's closed source. Honestly this might be a downgrade, even compared to Chrome. Anything else here would be an improvement.

Other than that, I'd replace Bitwarden with KeePassDX and Bitwarden Auth with Aegis. There's no shortage of decent password managers and 2fa apps.

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with bitwarden?

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Bitwarden is a great service but with KeePass you are in total control. Made another comment here, check it out. KeePass can also save your F2A keys but I would also recommend Aegis for this. If my KeePass database is compromised, they would also get my F2A keys so I would rather have that in a separate silo.

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Thanks, and good points. I'm not going to switch over soon but will definitely keep that in mind!

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

You can have a separate database for 2FA. I use Aegis, but have a 2FA database for keepass as backup and for use without a phone.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they’re more for advocating away from third-party online services, and direct control over your data. Technically Bitwarden is still trusting someone else with your data, but so is Tuta for both eMail and calendar… and Signal for messaging…

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Ahh fair, didn't consider that, thanks!

[–] guynamedzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

From my understanding, the devs of Vivaldi actually split off from the opera team because they didn’t like the direction opera was going and made their own browser

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Zen instead of Vivaldi, KeePass instead of Bitwarden

Aurora is just a frontend for Google play afaik so i don't know if it even counts. your best bet is fdroid obviously but in terms of apps available it's lackluster af and the UI looks like android gingerbread or something.

obsidian's cool but it's not keep-like at all. don't know what would be a good alternative off the top of my head but i bet there are tons.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

obsidian's cool but it's not keep-like at all. don't know what would be a good alternative off the top of my head but i bet there are tons.

I recommend Joplin. Doesn't have Obsidian's fancy UI or add-ons, but the core functionality is the same. Should be great for the vast majority of users.

your best bet is fdroid obviously but in terms of apps available it's lackluster af and the UI looks like android gingerbread or something.

They recently overhauled it and it looks mostly modern. Still not perfect, but definitely a lot better than it used to be. There are also third-party front ends. Can't really say anything about them as I haven't used any.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

never knew about the frontends; thanks

[–] laurentperrinet@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Self-served nextcloud is a all-in-one solution for files calendar contacts and more. I am not affiliated, but use it over 10 years in a way that I would usually not have to brag about it :-)

[–] Poop@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks for reminding me to finish moving away from Keep!

[–] hungrythirstyhorny@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

theres some games that i cant play, when im installed them from aurora store.. using linegae os rn after i opened it it redirect me to play store page,

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Signal need Google play services for notifications?

[–] fedditter@feddit.org 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Thanks friend! I'm also looking into simplex chat. That seems great too.

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 1 points 8 months ago

oh man thanks so much for linking this! i couldn't understand why i couldn't find Molly on my fdroid. i didn't realize i needed to add a repo.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

This privacypack thing is missing a lot of options and suggesying things that aren't private either, also i find it irinonic that i need a github account to contribute xD

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