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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Aw, don't you love searching for an update on something just for the algorithm to show you a low view count video that's a mediocre computer voice talking over a barely related slideshow?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.

It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I'm disappointed that nobody's had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this a bit disingenuous to why they originally started to change the algorithm though?

People figured it out and started abusing it by spinning up proxy websites that would just link to the sites they wanted higher up in the rankings. You could argue Google only became an advertising company so that they could regulate that whilst also taking a slice.

I'm not arguing that they've since lost their way though.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

SEO used to be a fulltime job.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The actual title of the video is:

Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg

Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.

[–] beeb@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

It's not uncommon for titles to change over the first few hours after a release (A-B testing). I've seen the title as posted by the OP yesterday on my feed.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 8 points 3 days ago

A copyright strike is a little bit more serious than a content id match, fwiw.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2814000?hl=en

[–] artyom@piefed.social 210 points 4 days ago

I love that he responded to their takedown request by releasing an entire video about Bloomberg and their shitfuckery.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Time for them to at minimum mirror their channel to Odysee and/or PeerTube so that they'll still have a platform just in case their channel gets nuked.

Even if you don't plan on ditching YT outright, it's still a good idea to mirror to Odysee, PeerTube, or both, as a backup because of shit like this.

[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That was my first thought as well. As he's touching into these sort of topics, where he has to defend himself against companies with the greatest capital in the world, he won't stand a chance to survive on these traditional platforms. He definitely needs to launch a PeerTube instance.

But the thing is, with this size of a channel, it would cost a lot of money to maintain it.

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[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 107 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I would like to see more content relating to the last interview in the video with Mr. Pigeon. Truly think he has great arguments that need further airtime

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[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 31 points 4 days ago (11 children)

So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 27 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

So, there are options.

You have three challenges:

  • You need to be discoverable

  • you need to be accessible

  • you need to monetize

If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.

Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.

Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.

Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.

Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.

edit: cut myself short

I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.

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[–] towerful@programming.dev 21 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.

Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move

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[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 85 points 4 days ago (19 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 85 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Every substantial youtube channel should be hosting and backing up to a self-hosted, owned, peertube.

[–] Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Issue is such channels need giant amounts of storage for this.

Linus tech Tips showed his multiple upgrades over the years it's quite crazy what they need on storage space.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (16 children)

LTT storage is excessive. He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format. Plus if you're a youtuber with millions of subscribers you can afford to pay for a few TB of storage to hold and serve your videos. Its not that expensive.

[–] Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Uh he just build a 2PB rack or something so hes far away from TB

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 24 points 4 days ago

He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format.

That's the right way to do it, you want to avoid generation loss as much as possible.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 days ago (5 children)

While The title of the video is absolutely one of sensationalism, It's not out of the question as two more strikes could indeed delete a channel...

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[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (29 children)

How is his channel going to be deleted? They appealed the take down and YouTube will reinstate the video in a matter of 10 days if Bloomberg failed to produce proof that he used their copy right shit. I'm actually genuinely asking because I watched the whole video and Steve didn't say anything about their channel being deleted.

[–] maaneeack@lemmy.world 136 points 4 days ago (14 children)

3 dmca/copyright strikes on a channel and yt deletes you. It was mentioned near the beginning of the video.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it's a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.

Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can't defend yourself.

The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.

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[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I would assume its in reference to the section of the video quoting YouTube's policies that channels can be removed after 3 copyright strikes. Bloomberg has 10 days to appeal to YouTube and keep the strike active

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[–] 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@lemmy.zip 55 points 4 days ago

Bloomberg’s lawyer to Steve: how DARE you contact us without going through another lawyer

[–] toad31@lemmy.cif.su 30 points 4 days ago (16 children)

He should be on PeerTube, anyways.

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 47 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Waaaay less money to be made there. Not saying he's exclusively doing this for the money like the other reply, but we're not talking about some solo guy making videos in his free time for fun. The man is running a business, needs money to make this videos happen, and to my knowledge this is his job.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I do not understand why creators feel the need to be exclusively on one platform. Simply crosspost the videos.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

$$$ that's why. YouTube gives the greatest return. If they post to multiple platforms, not only is it more work, but they then also subtract from the number of views they get on YouTube. It's all about the $$$.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 4 days ago

Stop building houses on the king's land.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Sure, then post it on peertube.

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