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In my opinion we need to support other websites like odysee and peertube. If everyone here continue to watch content on yt we won't have a real alternative. This is my thought. For me the best alternative right now is odysee and I'm trying to watch only creator there. (If u want a list of content creator I can write it down)

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[–] Resplendent606@piefed.social 49 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Odysee is a nonstarter for me with its lack of moderation, resulting in a lot of right-wing hate filled garbage. Also, their thing with using some virtual currency and paying creators is weird. I want no part of cryptocurrency or "space dollars" or whatever they want to call it. PeerTube is ideal but not enough people are posting to it, which is frustrating. Youtube frontends, like invidious, are our best solution until creators move to something else.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If anyone is interested in peertube, there's an awesome collection of channels here: https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos

There's also a number of peertube related communities: !peertube@lemmy.world

Hope to see you all there!

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[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

100% Especially since Google is cracking down on alternative front ends like freetube and blocking VPN IPs

The hard part will be to convince creators to go to platforms where they don't get paid

[–] Kroko@feddit.online 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is self-hosting a YouTube front-end reliable? Public instances often don’t work, but maybe Google doesn’t block private ones?

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, but this defeats the purpose of being anonymous and not sending your habits and IP to facist america, if you are the only one using that instance, it doesn't give you any anonymity

Then you might just use freetube with local back end

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is the real problem. But I see already a lot of creator on odysee. We need to support them by donations

[–] thetaphipsi@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I use a croned service built around yt-dlp and a simple textfile for channels and their options. It saves categorized, correctly cutted, subbed and thumbnailed mkvs for upnp rygel to serve my TVs.

You can find the code here to get started with a usable state:

https://github.com/krei-se/yt-timeshift

Together with mediathekview this creates distraction free content, you can cron symlink all new stuff into another folder, means you open "Whatsnew" and have all fresh content from last week or two sorted.

So far im pretty pleased as the server is on my roaming homes nfs so can pickup the browser cookies from my workstation easily, manually updating them is not really an option.

I would not use a manually run service or frontend though as the query for new videos is not fast, a single run with 50 channels will easily go an hour just to scrape all video lists.

You also have to experiment a lot with sleep parameters to not trigger their bot detection and should autoupdate yt-dlp through the service.

But since it ran stable it continues to do so for months now.

[–] Trent@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (11 children)
[–] dreaper@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Nah, hard pass on YouTube.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

I spent better than a month blocking all of the extreme right content and bullshiy on Odyssey. There's not enough content left to fill 15 minutes of my day

I set up new pipe attached it to Peer tube there's a couple of people on there that are okay but hardly anything. Completely lacking any form of monitization, peer tube just lacks creators like mad.

Odyssey and rumble are just cesspools, and peer tube is starved for anybody half decent.

[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

they're a part of the solution: yes you're watching content from youtube, but you're in no way supporting youtube or its creators financially by doing so.

there's no difference between using freetube and quitting youtube altogether as far as google is concerned, and it's a good option for people who want to protest google but don't want to miss out on content.

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is there no piracytube? If anyone watches smth from youtube, they automatically seed them. And it shares videos via p2p. If you wanna support the creator, almost all have patreon or smth.

[–] helloworld@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I guess the copyright-enforcement will come after you then, because you do not abide by the licenses. Video creators might feel attacked by this, since they do not gain revenue. Ideally we would all switch to peertube and watch CC0-licensed content.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people test the alternatives, find they actually really do like the comfort of the YouTube bubble and go back.

Most people are not going to be hard core free speech advocates who will ignore/block what they don't like.

Any chance of competition requires algorithmic discovery, censorship (to the users biases), and transparency across platforms

Apps like grayjay that pull content from multiple platforms seamlessly is a good first step in making video streaming fungible.

[–] helloworld@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

algorithmic discovery

this is the hard part.

[–] Kroko@feddit.online 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need to know creators

Watch on Odysee adon will automatically switch to Odysee if the video is available on both platforms.
Firefox LINK

PeerTube Companion auto switch to PeerTube
Firefox LINK

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

The Peertube Firefox add on looks like a great idea👍

I might add it even if I already have a lot of things to watch on Peertube.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really hope PeerTube continues to be built up! Would be nice as an alternative.

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

We need more creator there!

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well it's not like we can follow a youtuber on peertube, odysee or bitchute if they don't post on those platforms.

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

you're right, we need more content creator on those plattaform!

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[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Use Grayjay, it pulls in all the platforms

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't that just a yt front-end with extra stuff?

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago

yeah, my point is that we need to interact in the plattform

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It is more of a platform aggregation tool, where you can see all the content from the creators. The platform is irrelevant to me personally

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's one called glomble that's picking up a little. Granted it needs people to donate to the platform as well if they want things to load faster than 30 megabits per minute

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When it comes to European content, especially the Czech and Slovak ones, there is no alternative in the case of YouTube. Every content creator here is on Meta's platforms, Reddit, and/or YouTube. So the only way to watch them without ads (I'm supporting some of them via superchats) is to use an AdBlock or an alternative frontend like Tubular.

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

the people don't know alternative

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 months ago

One thing I think is that such platforms are built to manipulate the user into staying with them. Having what feels to be ADHD, I can have several different interests at once, and if they're done online, it's always miserable to cycle through sites to check one or two things, and so the interest to check such smaller platforms starts waning.
One thing I have found that helps mitigate the problem is aggregation systems, like RSS readers, Grayjay, NewPipe and the sort.
Maybe tools like those would be a start? Several of Youtube's alternatives support RSS and are supported by either/both NewPipe and Grayjay (with some overlap and plans to expand from each).
Also if the user is bent on ditching Youtube completely, but doesn't want to make a hard cut, doing a transition instead, Youtube also has RSS and integration to both players.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Freetube has an update today (at least for Linux). Seems to be working much better now.

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[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is Odysee even decentralized still?

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Last I checked LBRY was dead, or at least all of the clients were

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A solution that I’m inching towards is just cutting the time I spend watching videos.

After years upon years watching YouTube and finally arriving at degoogling I’m starting to get to the point where I open up yt and … it’s not scratching that itch anymore. The realisation that this time is wasted and could’ve been spent on doing stuff that matters is nagging in my head.

Not to mention the thought of feeding big tech data that might end up aiding another atrocity unto humanity.

I can get my news elsewhere (here for example), tutorials might take some reading instead.

I’m not saying I’m gonna go cold turkey day one and be successful at it. But the idea is growing.

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 2 points 6 days ago
[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

If you are watching it just for entertainment/timepass, youtube must not be it.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

I mostly watch youtube on a fire tv stick as background crap.

[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The main issue with YouTube alternatives that makes people not want to move is they can no longer watch their favorite creators because none of them want to move from YouTube. Especially the ones whos entire JOB is making YouTube content.

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