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Who can afjord a new car nowadays?
But it's really all about the charging infrastructure and the seamless technology of the car. No one comes even close."
Norway is big and sparsely populated. Having access to supercharging stations really makes several hours difference on your roadtrip if you exceed the car's range
idk how it is in norway, but don't they have to let anyone charge there by now?
I understood they let anyone charge only on paper, using higher fees as a barrier for non-teslas. I might be wrong though.
The norwegians are shameless subhumans, unlike the englightened swedes, were Tesla has experienced a 90%+ drop in sales.
God i hope i can visit Sweden again someday
The reason might be because they pushed the new model Y with a zero down payment, zero interest at start loan. Norway is has experienced higher inflation and interests rates than Sweden and coupled with NOK being a volatile currency experiencing a pretty severe devaluation that option seems good right now.
And Tesla as had a high star for years in Norway being among the most mature EV markets. Tesla was early into the Norwegian market.
That's the last straw, Norway. You are hereby declared to once again be west Sweden.
North Denmark!
How dare you
The fuck are you doing Norway, hold the line.
It's shit like this that brings me closer and closer to being convinced that we're completely fucked as a species. We can't even keep it in our pants when the fucking Fascists are at play...
Musk is not fucking over their country (yet) so they don't give a shit.
Norway. Not cool, bro.
Bizarre. So many other EV options.
In Norway (and Denmark), for the price, there is nothing which compares for range, performance, boot space, and software with the Model Y. I know it's taboo on Lemmy to speak well of Teslas but there's a reason it's been the best selling car in the world for two years running. It's a great family car. Prove me wrong. What's an EV with better range, performance, and boot space for the price?
Well thatβs not true. There are plenty of options, XPENG is pretty much a 1 to 1 upgrade.
Donβt know what the prices are in Norway, but a Hyundai Ionic 5 and Kia EV 6 have a similar range and price in the US. The Equinox is substantially cheaper at $35k with a 319 mi range. Only 10 mile shorter range than the base Model Y.
https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-y-2025
The Ioniq 5 AWD has 11% less range and 9% less boot space and costs 15% more than the Model Y AWD.
The Kia EV 6 has 10% less range and 16% less boot space and costs 7% more than the Model Y AWD.
The Equinox has 7% less range and 9% less boot space and is 65% slower 0-60 (7.6s vs 4.6s).
None of these are comparable unless you pick only one of the metrics and ignore everything else. I also ran a comparison on cheaper variants and the Model Y increased its lead in some categories.
On the topic of ignoring everything else, I don't think boot space and range tell the entire story of a car's value. The EV6 and the Ioniq 5 both have much better suspensions and a quieter cabin than the Tesla, and both offer the option to change the baseline level of regenerative braking being applied for a smoother transition for drivers getting used to an EV platform (or anyone who just doesn't want to use one-pedal driving). I personally disliked the Tesla software experience in my parents' Model Y, which makes it so annoying that everything has to be done through the tablet. Both HMG cars have at least some buttons and knobs (and actual air vents!), and the option to use Android Auto/Apple CarPlay. The range thing is also pretty driver dependent. I'm averaging slightly better efficiency on my EV6 than my parents' Model Y even with more freeway miles, probably because I'm able to frequently coast.
If you get severe range anxiety/don't have access to a home charger or are consistently filling up your trunk to the brim, then yeah you should buy a used Model Y. But for anyone else who might be considering an EV, I'd encourage you not to write the other 3 off (I have no experience with the Equinox, I didn't even start looking for used ones because it doesn't have Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, and only has an 8 year free access to Maps in their infotainment system).
It's true that different people value different things. This is why my first comment makes it clear that the metrics which I value (and which tend to feature very high on polling of features which EV customers value) are range, performance, boot space, and (to a lesser degree) software.
I also disagree re suspension and cabin noise. I've test driven both the most recent Ioniq 5 and Model Y, and they're both very good, but I would give the edge to the Model Y. You'd have been correct last year though. The Juniper refresh made some quite substantial updates. If you're into cars, EVs, or even engineering this video with Jay Leno talking about the engineering of the refresh with Tesla's Head of Design and VP of Vehicle Engineering was super interesting.
I also prefer buttons and knobs and the EV 6 has more but I have to be honest, I hated the touch buttons. It felt like the worst of both worlds. Totally fair that this is subjective and it obviously clicked well with you.
Ultimately I agree that people should try out all three if they're in the market (I also have no experience with the Equinox). Our decision came down mostly to the factors we care about the most. I don't think one needs to feel "severe range anxiety" to prefer an EV with longer range. It might not be a deal breaker, but it's a very nice thing to have in an EV. That's the top polled feature for EV buyers. I also agree that driving style make a big difference to range, no matter the EV.
Norway has had the highest subsidies for electric vehicles in the world. Not sure how it is nowadays but if they aren't number one they're definitely in the top. I live in Scandinavia but not in Norway. This is only what I can remember, there may be more:
- No registration fee. It's like 10 000 USD for a diesel.
- No VAT/taxes on the purchase
- No congestion fees
- Allowed to drive in bus lanes
- Free parking
- No toll fees (and there are tolls absolutely everywhere)
You can get a brand new Model Y in Norway for about 40 000 USD.
Just for comparison: that's roughly what a new premium car costs in neighbouring countries. Add 10K if you want it to be electric. 20k if you want more range than a few km and any kind of comfort and quality.
I'd sooner buy a BYD than a Tesla. Can't understand the Norwegian buyers at all on this.
Musk = POS Nazi.