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cheaters are annoying but calm down lmfao

bonus "they're actively hurting the gaming company πŸ₯Ί" as if anyone's supposed to give a fuck

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[–] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 27 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Game companies encourage cheating because these types of users buy multiple accounts (ex. Tarkov for RWT) or buy multiple subscriptions (ex. MMOs like WoW for RWT)

There is no reason to believe they couldn't eliminate cheating over night if they wanted to.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 hours ago

They have no problem pouring money on psychologists helping to exploit human behavior for maximal profit via microtransactions, but somehow "struggle" to deal with cheaters. Best they can do is kernel-level access to your computer that can potentially do irreversible damage to said computer (either from third-party exploiting this) and it doesn't even work more than half of the time.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 9 hours ago

All anti-cheat systems are rootkits of variable invasiveness.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 9 hours ago

I'd say this is just exaggeration but there are people who cheer when the police murder shoplifters and people illegally selling cigarettes

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They cry about inconsequential stuff like this (granted, cheating is annoying), yet when you bring up issues about sexism, racism and other forms of bigotry that are festered in the gaming "culture" and when you bring up that children are exposed to all that, which is later exposed to next generations from the previous, at best they'll downplay some of it or at worst, they'll deny all of it.

Cheating in video games is a more valued issue needing to be addressed than bigotry to these lunatics. Gaming companies continue to develop games that allow and actively encourage this behavior unimpeded. Deeply unserious bunch.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

it's not just "muh vidya". an online game is proletarian recreation and when you work 8+ hours a day and have maybe 2 hours of leisure time to experience joy for once then cheaters are doing something personal.

it's not systemic and obviously those issues are more important, but consider how many cheaters also put slurs in their tags and maybe "death to videogame cheaters" kills a lot of nazis by coincidence

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, again this is not to say cheaters aren't a problem at all, but to say that they are a problem localized to the game they're cheating on.

The actual important issues extend beyond just the game itself currently being played, and it's not just a result of a bunch of white kids or manchildren being "edgy" for the hell of it, all of it has real-life consequences.

Those who votekick cheaters with racist usernames, pfps, etc.. don't actually mind the racism and those types are actively more harmful than cheating itself. Some games necessitate communication, so "just muting" is an option that makes multiplayer games less fun and even if these games didn't, it doesn't make any of the issues any less important to address.

Even outside of live service/online games, game communities are littered with these bunch. Literal Nazi Bars everywhere you go. So, the only sane option there is out there is either sticking to singleplayer games or finding niche communities that aren't actively harboring Nazis.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 4 hours ago

unfortunately it's hard to have enough people to play a lot of game modes while niche and everybody having other obligations

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 27 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I suggest we abolish competitive online games instead phoenix-evidence

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Any game with rankings or ELO is being taken too seriously

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

nah i want competitive matches not to oscillate between steamrolling people who never had a chance and getting rolled. my ten year old nephew doesn't need to get dunked on by division 3 college players.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Play with your 10 year old nephew in your own private lobby, matchmaking was a ~~mistake.~~ corporate plot

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

i don't have 80 friends to battle royale with. shit i don't even have 20 friends to fill a big TDM map

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We had a solution for this, it was called the server browser. Battle royale was also a mistake/corporate plot, though.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

idk fortnite was an accident, that game was originally some generic survival crafting bullshit. the boom of the last 8 years or so has roots in ARMA 3 mods

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's why I didn't cross out mistake for BR unlike matchmaking. The corpos sure jumped on it hard, but it did originate with an honest mistake by innocent modders.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 3 hours ago

i thought you meant mistake like miyazaki-pain anime was a mistake

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago

abolish gamers

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 29 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There's an added layer of racism here because many redditor Gamersβ„’ think most cheaters are from China.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 9 hours ago

these days i see more SS 1488 shit than i see stereotypically asian names on high ping accounts.

if there are a lot of cheaters from china in your game (dubious) maybe it's because a shitload of people live there?

gamers are the biggest treatlerites in the west. genuinely no group i can think of who are bigger babies than gamers

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 15 hours ago

Sure fines or ejecting players for cheating in a professional setting

But dream on in public. Want that kind of control bring back private servers. Game companies will never invest in the kind of hands-on moderation it would require. You think receiving GM tickets in a mmorpg takes staff? Imagine needing a referee for every online game. Because that's what it would take to do it right.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Fuck it. Just death penalty for everything. Run a red light? Death penalty. Shit on the sidewalk? Death penalty. Steal a bag of chips? Death penalty. Sneeze, and dont cover your mouth? Death penalty.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 5 points 9 hours ago

Sneeze, and dont cover your mouth? Death penalty.

this but unironically

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

i've seen that star trek episode. it turned out great for everybody but wil wheaton

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 13 points 14 hours ago

a lot of people actually think this tbh. think of anyone killed by cops. "he stole from a walmart in 1987, he was no angel"

[–] prole@hexbear.net 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Someone is gonna post a screenshot of this on db0

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

make it a tagline tbh

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 14 hours ago

Use whatever db0 is? Death Penalty.

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And the sentence can be carried out on the spot by any good samaritan that witnessed the despicable act.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Public logic already readily defends cops killing people over minor infractions + being non-violently uncooperative, and we've got heroes like Rittenhouse being promoted who basically did just that, so I think we'll get there soon enough. Anything in defense of capital.

PS I'm curious why you have an 88 in the Year of Our Lord 2025. Like, I'm not saying you mean anything bad by it, surely not, I'm just wondering why you stuck with using the last two digits of your birth year (I assume) given that number's connotations (which, again, I'm sure you don't mean).

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Calm down, Shang Yang.

[–] prole@hexbear.net 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They don't even realize that the companies could easily catch and ban cheaters if they just spent money on it. They don't care beyond cheating that fucks up their revenue. The only time I could imagine even the slightest concern over cheating would be in cases where players can get paid. Even then going to jail for it would be wild. Imagine sending someone to jail for cheating in a game like basketball or something

Going to prison for fouling too many times in a YMCA game of pickup basketball while black

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 7 points 14 hours ago

Is this about RileyCS?

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 9 points 14 hours ago

livestreamfail users having bad opinions

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