it's not just "muh vidya". an online game is proletarian recreation and when you work 8+ hours a day and have maybe 2 hours of leisure time to experience joy for once then cheaters are doing something personal.

it's not systemic and obviously those issues are more important, but consider how many cheaters also put slurs in their tags and maybe "death to videogame cheaters" kills a lot of nazis by coincidence

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, again this is not to say cheaters aren't a problem at all, but to say that they are a problem localized to the game they're cheating on.

The actual important issues extend beyond just the game itself currently being played, and it's not just a result of a bunch of white kids or manchildren being "edgy" for the hell of it, all of it has real-life consequences.

Those who votekick cheaters with racist usernames, pfps, etc.. don't actually mind the racism and those types are actively more harmful than cheating itself. Some games necessitate communication, so "just muting" is an option that makes multiplayer games less fun and even if these games didn't, it doesn't make any of the issues any less important to address.

Even outside of live service/online games, game communities are littered with these bunch. Literal Nazi Bars everywhere you go. So, the only sane option there is out there is either sticking to singleplayer games or finding niche communities that aren't actively harboring Nazis.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

unfortunately it's hard to have enough people to play a lot of game modes while niche and everybody having other obligations