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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It's really cool how judges would say that all human lives are equal but also closely match them to their net worth...

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Insane. My friend is serving 6 months because he fought back against his violent abusive dad one time. This guy gets 6-12 months after killing 2 and injuring 11? Wtf is this system?

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Afluenza, you know. This guy probably has rich and powerful daddy and mommy.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

It's ok, none of the people killed or hurt were billionaires, so like.. they guy barely broke any real laws worth worrying about.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

After those six months, we need you back out on those streets running over cyclists and subsidizing our dying domestic auto industry, you hear me?!

  • Judge in this case after doing his sentencing

/s

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

for international context here: this is (one of) the hottest major city in the ~~country~~ world; we have year round bike weather. This happens all the time unfortunately.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The hottest city != Bike weather?

They meant to say "bike melting weather"

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People who live here are used to the heat. I ride my bike in >40° weather all the time. People who aren’t used to the heat yet will start to ride right before sunrise when it’s 27-30°. To give you another frame of reference: I set my HVAC to 25.5° year round and turn it down to 24.5° when I’m “overheated” (room temp <24° is unbearably cold to me). We’re just built different here.

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

I speak for all of Canada when I say that you are fucking nuts.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember people, if you wanna kill someone, make sure you're in a car! If you're lucky you might not even get a jail sentence!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Remember people, if you wanna kill someone, make sure you’re a rich white person in a car!

Also doesn't hurt if the people you plow over are young, minorities, women, or - best of all - progressive activists.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

Sounds fair. I'd expect me smeared on the road by a truck is probably worth a couple of hours of community service. At least a couple. Imagine a beautiful Lady. That's at least a couple of months depending on the make-up. 2 cyclists and 11 injured yeah that should carry some prison. Specially if it was a nice Walmart bike with shimano part upgrades. Amazon electric... Forget it, that's at least 25 to life. But only if it had a fancy range extender. Otherwise maybe 15 years?

Hopefully they learn their lesson and doesn't become a repeat offender.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is good. It gives the grieving families a year to plan how to get the bastard once he’s out of jail.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 11 points 1 day ago

Obviously run his ass over in a Walmart parking lot.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 147 points 2 days ago (12 children)

misdemeanor? so like, murder is illegal, murdering multiple with a truck is kind of legal

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

There is no law and order in the US. If you want to diddle kids, just operate a Joint commission accredited troubled teen facility. There are literally zero requirements, and you can sue anyone who questions you into poverty!

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile a couple of parents in North Carolina are facing manslaughter charges after they let their kids walk to the grocery store while they guided them over the phone and one of them got hit and killed by a car.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I sure hope so, the kid basically ran into traffic. No crosswalk, completely unsupervised.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Ran into traffic?

A witness said Legend stepped into the street and was struck before his older brother could pull him back.

The driver struck a slow moving child who witnesses said had stepped off the curb and into the street. Stepped, not ran. The car then struck him before his brother could pull him back. There is no law against what these parents did. The driver on the other hand had an obligation to be aware of her surroundings including the children on the sidewalk beside the street who might step or fall into the street.

It also doesn't matter if the child was unsupervised. Did your parents keep you on a leash? Do you keep your kids on a leash? Even if the parent was there, the child could still have stepped off the curb and been killed. If the brother wasn't fast enough to pull him back, then then there is no basis to assume that the parent necessarily would have been.

Kids, unsupervised or not, do dumb things. The onus is on the driver to slow down when a potential hazard is spotted and to take steps to avoid it. Now, without more information about the setting I cannot say whether or not the driver should be charged. Maybe the kid wasn't visible to the approaching driver, for example. But if the parents are being charged when there is no crime or real negligence, then the driver should be too and the courts can sort it out.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago
[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is equal in legality as throwing one sub at an ICE agent.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if I run over a bunch of ICE agents while riding a submarine sandwich?

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[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, if you actually read the article, it says he claimed that the steering wheel locked up on him, but the NTSB stated that he suffered from severe fatigue. Maricopa county prosecutors said there wasn't enough evidence to press any felonious charges.

So, at best, this would be a case of manslaughter (which is a felony), but there's no conclusivity on whether it was with malicious intent or premeditated.

So no, he's not a murderer. He negligently fell asleep at the wheel.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If u drive while being impaired (by whatever) ur a piece of shit and if u kill anyone doing that (except like suffering a heart attack or something not foreseeable) ur a murderer in my mind.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Failing to maintain a vehicle is an impairment. Also "my steering wheel locked up" is not a reason to not hit the brakes.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Fortunately, the law doesn't operate on what's in your mind.

Murder implies premeditation. The prosecutor and judge didn't see evidence of premeditation.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem to have been done intentionally, so at best it's involuntary manslaughter. They think he may have fallen asleep or something.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay so negligent manslaughter.

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He should never get his license back. What the hell. Only 6 months.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, traveling by car is seen as the default. Hence using something else than a car to travel is seen as taking unnecessary risks, which is why we see a lot of victim blaming.

Speed limit inside of cities should be like 30km/h, 20km/h during the times of day when school typically starts and ends, all day near a school. Fines for speeding should be 3 dayfines for each kilometer you're over the limit, with five percent of your net worth being added to your annual income for the calculation. 5 dayfines if you speed in a school zone. And if somebody throws themselves in front of your car, and they die, you should lose your license for 6 months. (Though in this case, all financial damages emerging from your license suspension should be paid by the estate of the deceased). In case of vehicular manslaughter that doesn't involve somebody deliberately hitting your car, the license should be suspended permanently.

Sorry for the rant.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'd like to know whether that means he can drive for the 2nd hald of his prison term.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Prosecutor needs to be tried for treason. At the very least there needs to be a permanent license suspension.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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