MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
I've noticed a lot of people seem to have the mentality "US bad, therefore the enemies China and Russia are good"
Sure, the US is an imperial power that pushes others around. Doesn't stop Russia and China from also doing bad things.
Stop the high school drama thinking.
lmfao what’s up with all these bootlickers?
They understand that the US does bad things, but have a black-and-white worldview that brings them to the conclusion that anyone who opposes the US must be heroes. They don't understand that both sides of a conflict can be shitty.
That mod in those countries would be made to disappear for the pronouns in his name, then tortured until he admits to raping children.
They have the pronouns to pretend to be on the left, when in reality they're more alligned with Neo-Nazis
I was surprised they didn't remove the thread
But then I understood
They ban everyone that accuses them of censoring, or being tankies, or speaking against china and russia, and they keep their tankies' comments so people are convinced
Yeah, I mean, I saw this post and was kind of wondering the same thing myself. But I didn't comment because whoooo- what a lightning rod of a post. No thanks getting that shit on my shoes.
Nobody asked for one, but I got a pretty good explanation for why this is what why this is happening.
ML's on lemmy are predominantly of the "deprogram" variety (in reference to the deprogram podcast and r/thedeprogram being quite large on reddit), and generally they're a laughing stock given the narratives they parrot that are so de-attached from the material reality and their various mannerisms when it comes to arguing. One of the larger narratives is that the west and western imperialism is horrible (which is true), and that whoever is opposed to it must be a force for good or something, which manifests as uncritical support for China, Russia, Iran even though they're both imperialist bourgeoisie states too.
I see some people claim that they're some paid Russian shills, which is wrong. They do it for free, with a genuine belief because that's what their community says and does.
Having a mandatory "these government/nations are above criticism" stance is just nationalist fascism, no different to MAGA fascism.
If a nation can't be criticised or questioned, it can't be improved, and is dead in some serious way. .ml users should be embarrassed for staying there. The standards you walk past are the ones you accept.
Poor dude was new and just didn't know what was going on, or even the atmosphere where they posted the question. Lmao I really need to migrate a piefed instance stat.
This is precisely why more instances should ~~defend~~ defed .ml
They make the onboarding experience shitty for new users who haven't built up some immunity to tankie brain rot