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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly the story behind Hot Ones and I disliked it from first view. Commenters like 'OMG how does he get these guests. So glad he's succeeding.' Dude it's literally a corporation.

Just a 'late night show' format for celebrities to sell their latest book/movie in gen Z format.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Chris Spargo is one of the few I think is legit. Least I hope so

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 23 points 6 days ago

OOP found out his favorite Vtuber is actually a corpo ad platform.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago

Don't be jelly bc you can't afford a talent agent

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago

No one actually succeeds on YouTube. They're all just industry plants.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Most youtubers are businesses owned by corporate networks. The person on screen is just the talent pretending to be an organic channel.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't understand why people are so shocked and horrified when it turns out that people who do entertainment for a living have been professional entertainers the whole time.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most of them are pretending that they aren't corporate. YouTubers are generally trying to keep up the illusion of authenticity, which on YouTube usually includes pretending that you're on your own.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, the vast, vast majority of entertainment media is an act. Do you watch Top Gear and assume that everything they did happened organically?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No, but the point is that tv shows or movies generally don't pretend like that.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Its the same reason I hate "reality shows". Give me reality or give me fiction. Dont try pretending its real when its not

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I dont care if they are a 1 person business or a small team. What im talking about is when a Giant multinational corporation buys up 1000s of youtube channels. I want to watch 1 person or a small team not a big talent corp

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because YouTube used to be mostly independent creators, even when people first started making money off it. That was the sales pitch.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really honestly do miss youtube before it got monetised. Yeah the content overall was probably worse, but it was also in it's baby shoes, but only seeing videos because beople wanted to make the video hit so different. Now it's all commercials and talking about possible commercials, don't say the nono words. And don't talk bad about anyone, because maybe they'll sponser them someday.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oldtube is still there, if you know where to look. Independent creators in the unfiction genre are still putting out gold that beats the hell out of the mass-produced FNAF/mascot horror/Scrimblo Files knock-offs. Kane Parsons, Alex Archives, Alex Kister, Mister Manticore, Remy Abode, Kris Straub, the list goes on. Alex Archives even stated that his entire body of work, both Ted's Caving Journal and Hollow Birds, uses practical effects, free software, and free tutorials.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Yeah, was gonna say this. Like what YTs are y'all watching? My subscriptions and recommendations are randos playing games with their friends, memes, cat vids, and randos talking about interesting topics or the latest shitty Tiktok trend that I can be horrified by. I'm very lost as to everyone only finding these talent/corporate YTs.

I definitely have encountered the corporate YTs in the VTuber community, and I honestly think that's why I hate Agency VTs so much compared to indie VTs. Watching Hololive/Kurosanji is like watching a bunch of coworkers play Mario Kart. Yeah, you "know" them and "get along", but only in the superficial sense, cause you have to pay your bills. The shit always blows up later on anyway. Way more fun to watch some random with a mid setup play some obscure horror game by themselves or with actual friends.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

99.9999999% of stats are made up.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Sometimes I get the impression that social media fame is continuing the narrative of the American dream worldwide: strangely enough, many people assume that it happens regularly that someone steps out of their parent's bedroom, records a few videos, and overnight, without much effort, becomes a multimillionaire – just like that.

This is the absolute exception and has hardly happened at all for a long time. Online, it's long been like the real world economy: without the support of powerful players, it's basically impossible for anyone to become successful. It's a tough business with an endless number of competing content producers, from whom influential financiers can choose the content and the faces to go with it and pocket the lion's share.

And there is yet another misconception underlying the illusion of quick money: you only earn enough to live on once you have a certain reach – something very few people achieve. Most work hard for ridiculously low income, if they earn anything at all.

Consumers, on the other hand, persist in the attitude that the internet has taught them over the last twenty years: they expect high-quality content on a daily basis without having to pay anything for that. They assume that the producers of this content earn good money from it, but in the vast majority of cases - and if there is any money made in the first place - this is not true at all, because it is not the creative people who earn big, but those who exploit them.

Anyone who believes that content producers can finance themselves through voluntary donations is usually completely wrong — Wikipedia's fundraising campaigns, in which only a tiny percentage of users contribute anything, are just one example of many, even though Wikipedia is one of the most visited websites in many countries around the world.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who believes that content producers can finance themselves through voluntary donations is usually completely wrong

It works quite well on Twitch - if you have a lot of viewers on Twitch, you usually get enough donations to live off of. YouTube just never managed to find a good way to make creators profit directly from their content.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, having a large audience is the problem. If you have that, you can earn good money on YouTube too, especially since you can sign additional marketing deals. The thing is, though, that getting a large audience is anything but easy—most people who try fail.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The audience you need to make good money on YouTube, without external deals, is orders of magnitudes larger than on Twitch, though.

It's true that getting a large audience on Twitch is really hard nowadays, though. Seems like it was a lot easier a couple of years ago, not sure if it's just because of changed algorithms or because of market saturation.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yes, that may be true. I can't say much about Twitch because I don't know anything about it.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's like the gold diggers and the shovel sellers, guess who came out on top...

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's the American dream that has always been propagated to conceal the true circumstances and thus ensure that everything stays the same.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is interesting is that when you stream on twitch and you have 25 viewers, you are in the 1% of twitch streamers.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, successful streamers are literally one in a million, if that's even enough.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

wow i did not expect mr beast to do that. i thought he was a good guy

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 6 days ago

It’s kinda expected. Just look at Mr. Beast’s eyes, completely devoid of humanity.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Those dull cow eyes with nothing behind them...

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Even then, it's probably a fancy word for buying stats from some shady website.

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