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recently i just finished building a new pc. mostly for gaming since my only exposure to linux is steam os and i heard its uses arch with kde plasma so i try to emulate it as close as i can. however soon i realized how different it is and it requires more setup than i initially thought. i spent a whole day or two setting it up and i read now im responsible on maintaining it, what does it mean? is it just finding and testing drivers? or system update? what is the easiest way to do it? and what i getting myself into?

when i was about to install steam i found a tutorial on it with 3 - 4 pages full of text and was a bit overwhelmed, i decided just set it up using discover with flatpak, the problem is when i was about to find out how to do that i read mostly people really hate when you ask how to enable it in arch, is it really bad? should i just use konsole instead?

im not very tech savvy and at first I was really reluctant to use konsole but since i decided to use arch its inevitable that i have to use konsole and so far its not that bad, yet.

I'm just wondering for the long term, should i just change distro? or i should just powertrough arch and see where it goes.

thank you for your time.

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thank you for all the kind words, support and information everyone. i decided that i'll stick with arch until it breaks and ill see either i retry arch or try different linux flavors. i never feels so excited about os since i was messing around in win 2000

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

You’re going to break things. Then you’ll fix things. Then your break them again. Then you’ll realize there was an easier way to fix that last issue. It’s a fun learning experience.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, you're screwed.

You're mega extra screwed.

They know where you live.

They're coming for you.

Hide.

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

and i read now im responsible on maintaining it, what does it mean? is it just finding and testing drivers? or system update? what is the easiest way to do it? and what i getting myself into?

Where did you see this? What was the context? I ask because you could say the same thing about any PC you own. It's not like Microsoft is gonna answer your distress call if Windows breaks unless you're paying for support.

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

truthfully? memes. i always saw people memeing on how small thing can break linux and how barebones it is and after using the actual arch it just dawned on me.

[–] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

from Arch Wiki FAQ:

Is Arch Linux a stable distribution? Will I get frequent breakage?

It is the user who is ultimately responsible for the stability of their own rolling release system. The user decides when to upgrade, and merges necessary changes when required. If the user reaches out to the community, help is often provided in a timely manner. The difference between Arch and other distributions in this regard is that Arch is truly a 'do-it-yourself' distribution; complaints of breakage are misguided and unproductive, since upstream changes are not the responsibility of Arch devs.

It does not explicitly say "maintain" but it has a similar vibe to it.

[–] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try bazzite if you are willing to learn, otherwise just pick Zorin OS or Linux Mint and you will be fine (You will just have to learn the basics of how linux works, but nothing too complex as arch linux)

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

If you're using an Nvidia card, the easiest way into Linux for gaming (in my opinion) is Bazzite, as aguasemgas mentioned.

Otherwise, any distro will do. I prefer Fedora Workstation, which is what I use for work (as do my wife and kids) but use Bazzite in my laptop because it's a System76 Gazelle with a 3050TI,and I don't like the current status of PopOS. All my games run great, and everything else is a FlatPak, so not much need to tweak anything really.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're willing to learn Arch it really isn't that difficult. I wouldn't reccommend it to a noob but seeing as you're already using it why not give it a try? I wouldn't reccommend the Steam flatpak as Valve reccommends against it and it doesn't work as well. Feel free to DM for advice from someone who uses it daily.

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

thank you for the kind offer. ill try to use arch as long as possible. i hope i am a fast learner because I'm a bit lazy to setup a new distro and reconfig everything again

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I'm the laziest fuck there is man. You're in good company lol.

[–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I second this. The initial setup is the hard part. Give it a couple days. The arch wiki is the best resource in the whole Linux ecosystem in my opinion. If that's the long manual you were looking at for installing steam, know that 90% of it is info on strange edge cases and all a typical user will need to do is sudo pacman -Syu then sudo pacman -S steam (I forgot you have to enable the multilib repository if you haven't already. You seem smart, you'll find the info in the wiki)

A couple times a year or so something will break after an update. When that happens

  1. Google if anyone else has posted your exact problem
  2. See if chatgpt knows anything
  3. Humbly post in the arch user forum

One of those will solve it. Good luck!

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

i see. thank you for the info. i dont exactly remember if i have enabled multilib, it does sound familiar. maybe i alr enabled it when i tried a bunch of random things..

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

WHOA. Please be VERY HESITANT to use anything ChatGPT outputs. Sanity check any commands it gives you from other places first.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You're probably better off with Fedora, Mint, or Bazzite to be honest

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

Seconding Fedora.

[–] AHamSandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seconding Bazzite, it's great for gaming.

[–] dil@piefed.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

cachyos, post install click install gaming packages, in steam goto compotability switch it to proton cachyos, done, there is no struggle, it grabs heroic and lutris too for non steam stuff

[–] uairhahs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Highly recommend this for you OP. This would be the easiest course of action. Do you have to use Konsole, yes but for a few commands and once done you can do everything you need via GUI and not have to touch shell again for daily operations.

Catchy have a very powerful script that attaches all their pacman.conf (list of places where arch will look for it's software)

Here's a link to the section Adding CachyOS to existing Arch Install

Once that's done you only need one more command

sudo pacman -Syu octopi

Octopi will let you manage all your software and kernel updates without having to touch terminal or having to use flatpaks.

I would recommend packages:

  • cachyos-hooks
  • linux-cachyos
  • linux-cachyos-header
  • cachyos-kernel-manager
  • proton-cachyos
  • wine-cachyos
  • cachyos-gaming-meta

This will have you fully set up and ready to seamlessly game on your machine without having to reinstall a OS.

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

thank you for the kind recommendation, ill give it a look. im ankle deep in arch now. ill see where it goes and when it broke ill try different distros.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

The only tweaking I've ever needed to do was for Helldivers 2. I had to swap from cachy's proton to the actual proton which was literally just a menu in Steam. (Multiplayer wouldn't work otherwise. Everything else was fine.)

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i read now im responsible on maintaining it, what does it mean?

sudo pacman -Syu - do this about once every couple of days to make sure your packages are up-to-date
i can't think of anything else i have to do as part of maintaining my system outside of backups

Arch Linux's whole claim to fame is Some Assembly Required. Go with something like Mint or Fedora (the latter of which is available with the KDE desktop, source: am typing this on a gaming computer running Fedora KDE) and they're much more complete out of the box.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 days ago (6 children)

if you're a first timer and already got arch with kde set up you're pretty fucking tech savvy ngl

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (20 children)

But that doesn’t mean it’s a good place to start.

Try Linux Mint, Ubuntu, or Fedora. Any of these will be easier than Arch and offer point and click installation for steam, drivers, and just about anything else.

When you get some more experience, instead of arch you can try endeavourOS. it’s basically arch with good defaults and has a fantastic KDE implementation.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try Linux Mint, Ubuntu, or Fedora.

I think openSUSE is also a good option for newbies, either the Leap (stable release) or Tumbleweed (rolling release) variants. One nice thing openSUSE does for newbies and why I have been using it in the process of moving away from Windows is that it comes out of the box with automatic system snapshots enabled so that if you break anything it's relatively simple to roll back to a working config.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn’t really enjoy YaST, but I’ve got a freed up secondary SSD, maybe it’s worth giving a try again.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I don't think YaST is really required and they're apparently moving away from it. I've barely used it myself, but I hear it's one of the things many people like about openSUSE.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For gaming focused PC I'd look at Bazzite. OP wants it to be like the Steam Deck, it's just perfect for that.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I almost always advise against atomic distros for noobs. They are extremely limiting, add multiple complications to otherwise simple tasks, and the padded cell of immutability means you can’t really fuck around and learn how traditional Linux systems work.

I’m usually distro agnostic and just happy to see people use whatever Linux they like, but immutables have issues.

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Arch has a bit of a steeper learning curve. Ubuntu is probably the most "mainstream", but I prefer Mint (based on Ubuntu) for some user-friendly changes. PopOS (already based on Ubuntu) is also supposed to be a bit more gaming centric if you've got an Nvidia card.

I've got an AMD kit in my main machine and Nvidia/Intel in my laptop and both work fine with most Steam games using Proton.

[–] pyssla@quokk.au 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

If you're the type of new user that likes to go balls deep straight away, then Arch is arguably one of the better options thanks to its excellent Wiki. However, please don't blatantly overestimate yourself for the heck of it. Consider checking out ArchWiki's own entries on this matter:

i found a tutorial on it with 3 - 4 pages full of text and was a bit overwhelmed

I don't think this attitude is helpful for conquering Arch, but YMMV.

recently i just finished building a new pc. mostly for gaming since my only exposure to linux is steam os and i heard its uses arch with kde plasma so i try to emulate it as close as i can.

FWIW, if you just want to emulate SteamOS, perhaps consider Bazzite instead. It's not based on Arch, but it arguably is the closest to SteamOS (but better). More so than any Arch-based distro*.

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[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

If your only exposure is steamos bazzite might be easier for you

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Uninstall Arch and install Linux Mint. Give yourself that gift. It'd still be easier than installing Arch Linux, and you'll be way more comfortable most of the time in the long term. It's not that you can't use Arch, but their approach is not beginner-friendly.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago

First, I would like to give you some major props. Installing Arch, in itself, is a big deal. It is not a beginner-friendly distro. It is a very power-user friendly distro and has an incredible wiki that is helpful, at least to some degree, for many distros.

For a beginner distro, I would recommend Linux Mint for its easy transition and great focus on user experiences or Bazzite if you really want to install and get gaming.

When taking drivers in Linux, most are provided as either kernel modules (integrated into the kernel, so you don't have to worry about installing anything) or packaged for the distro, in which case, once installed via package manager, they'll auto-update whenever you update system packages. They are so much easier to deal with than Windows drivers (for the end user). For example, to use a Wacom drawing tablet, all one has to do is plug it in.

[–] ratatouille@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I admire your energetic here. I only installed the latest ubuntu (cause of latest gpu driver updates) then I installed steam from software center and it works nothing to do anymore.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

sudo pacman -Syu

And done, usually. Lol

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like you have an extra space

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Good call lol. Fixed.

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