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[–] TheMonk@lemmings.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

His is the scariest chart of the 2020s? Not the alarming warming spikes or the more powerful natural disasters? Who gives a shit if kids are cheating in school if they world they’re going to inhabit one day won’t leave them time for book learnin because they’re too busy surviving.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Tbf, part of why shit it so bad is because people are uneducated. If they can’t think for themselves then they’ll just believe whatever bullshit Fox News or the algorithm feeds them without critically thinking about it at all

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

And we've already seen that a company CAN change the "behaviour" of an LLM with a flick of a switch ("MechaHitler", anyone?), so imagine people being too lazy to research/learn, and a popular LLM being run by malicious actors.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

We haven't even seen a tenth of how much damage poor education can do to the world.

[–] bbb@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My take away is that it's mainly children who are still using the free version of ChatGPT. Surely everyone else has moved on to better models.

If you want to know what people are typing into chatbot sites, here's 140,000 examples: https://huggingface.co/datasets/lmarena-ai/arena-human-preference-140k. It's mostly nonsense.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Excuse me but who is "everyone else"? I am thankful to know noone who pays for this slop.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

cant wait for my surgeon to ask chat gpt where the bladder is

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

'Chat GPT? Explain to me like I'm 5 how to remove an inflamed appendix, but use only Roblox terminology... Also, say it like Mr. Krabs from SpongeBob.'

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

"What do 'left' and 'right' mean again?"

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

This seems like a good place for a thought i had yesterday. I was driving home and watched a younger woman, no older than 20 take a corner fast and sharp on the sidewalk. She was on one of those electric scooters you can rent. My first thought is how fun that would have been at that age. Then i really started thinking.

Here was this young woman pretty sure at driving age but vehicle prices are out of control. So owning even a beater may be too much for many. I had a scooter very similar but you had to push it everywhere. The deference is, I was eight. I think what I'm trying to find the words for is their privilege of a motorized scooter came at a price they'll never even understand.

These poor youth think they have it easy with there motorized scooters and chatgpt for answers. Truth is there are benefits to some things, maybe history will show I'm being an old fuddy duddy but I know i would still rather afford a cheap car than have rentable scooters.

Maybe like my teachers before me they will only be half truths. My teacher was right, I don't carry a calculator on me at all time. The supercomputer the size of that old calculator, that just so happens to also have that function? Well, its never far.

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, your comment about the vehicle is stupid as fuck. There is a woman on a scooter. Your city network provides her the possibility to drive with a small vehicle with low emissions and low noise pollution, she doesn't need to take the car. You don't know if she owns a car or not, maybe she just prefers the scooter? Her using the scooter is a net positive for everyone. Less traffic, less noise, less emissions and she still gets to her destination quickly

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it stupid?

You are being really mean for someone saying, in general, that the next generation doesn't seem to have it better. Why is that stupid? I don't understand why you would think that's a dumb sentiment to have unless you were just a mean person. Is that not a normal worry to have for children?

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's stupid to assume that just because someone is on an electric scooter, that person doesn't have enough money to buy a car

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is it possible someone like that exists? Yes. So what's the problem with the thought process?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem is judging this person based on your assumptions about them.

It's not such a terrible thing people are not owning cars.

The only thing I placed any judgment on in my entire post was how out of control vehicle prices were. You inferred any other judgment all on your own. Maybe you shouldn't jump to assumptions about someone's intentions. This isn't redit.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Despite being from a time before the internet, pocket calculators and smart phones, (my first "calculator" was a slide rule), I'm as quick to adopt and master tech as I find a need for it. I like shiny new tech.

But as someone who also spent a few years teaching math in a my local and very rural school, I was not very generous with the use of that super computer in your pocket in my classroom. The reason being I wanted you to get your fingers dirty and greasy playing and manipulating those numbers yourself. I wanted to you develop a personal relationship with them and have at least a basic idea of the how and why they work.

Modern tech is great if you already have an understanding of how things work and can simply view it as a tool. But modern tech pretty much prevents people from developing the basic understanding of the how and why things work. And we are all dumber for it.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 10 hours ago

When I was growing up, programmable calculators were allowed in math class, but not required. Even so, I was the only kid in my class without one. (They were expensive then.) I failed every test, both because the work was difficult without all the formulas saved, and because the problems were complicated enough that I never had time to finish.

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

Thank you for making your students do that. I'm sure it made them miserable at the time but I guarantee they are better for it.

In college I had a similar experience with statistics. I had to run a factor analysis by hand start to finish, calculating standard deviations, means, and all the other crap, showing work over 3 pages to get eigenvalues and all that. It sucked, but dammit if I dont have a WAY better appreciation for how it works now than I ever would have otherwise.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Hey I'm one of the youths in their 20s who can't afford a car because America devolved into a third world country by the time I aged into adulthood. I bought my first car, 3 years ago and it broke down within a few months, then I bought a car with my partner so we would have wheels. We are divorced now. No car and I only have an ebike so I'm thankful for the transportation I do have, at least I don't have to ride the bus

Thats rough. I wish i could say it will get easier but after 40 years I've noticed it doesn't. I truly hope you get ahead. It's not easy out there right now. Cheers mate.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trusting unsourced graphs is as stupid as trusting AI.

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

"June 6 is when school gets out in... uh... all the places where the children are using this AI thingy. Right."

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If you think that's the scariest graph in the 2020s you have a shit memory of what happened at the beginning of this decade...

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 38 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue the scariest graphs are about the climate, but few people seem to care anymore. We are already at 1.5°C global warming. Coastal regions around the world are almost definitely going under by 2100.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 6 points 19 hours ago

If anyone can out-engineer nature, then it's you. Please help us out in Sleeswijk Holstein!

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The scariest thing about this sentence is realizing we're already halfway to the next decade

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What the hell has happened this decade so far, anyway? 🤦🏻‍♀️ Feels like we made little progress and just took giant steps backwards everywhere.

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 22 hours ago

I can think of a couple of good things!

We proved the efficacy of mrna vaccines and deployed them at an unprecedented scale against a novel virus that had us all locked in our house. If it hadn't worked, our governments were pinches this close to sacrificing us all for the ~~greater good~~ economy anyway so realistically these vaccines probably saved billions of lives.

We've also deployed a huge amount of solar energy and started replacing combustion engines with electric ones on a huge scale in some countries.

There has also been a lot of bad stuff though...

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

The other J6

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 285 points 1 day ago (31 children)

What we see here is the real user base of LLM. And 97% of them are free users.

It's hardly a mystery why no AI company is remotely close to making a profit, ever.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Employees will use AI to do their jobs!" AI enthusiasts don't seem to grasp that if AI can do your job, you're not going to have a job any more.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Thats why farmers don't exist, steel plows took em all out, similar for painters since cameras were invented.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Have we still learned nothing about enshittification? This implication of this graph is that there’s an entire generation of people being raised right now who won’t be able to do jack shit without depending on AI. These companies don’t need to be profitable right now, because once they’re completely entrenched in the workflows and thought processes of millions of people, they can charge whatever they want. Accuracy and usefulness are secondary to addiction and dependency. If you can afford to amass power and ubiquity first, all the profit you can imagine will come later.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

once they’re completely entrenched in the workflows and thought processes of millions of people, they can charge whatever they want

Except that those people won't have jobs or money to pay for AI.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Fair, but social media shows that enshittification doesn't have to result in them charging money. Advertising and control over the zeitgeist are plenty valuable. Even if people don't have money to pay for AI, AI companies can use the enshittified AI to get people to spend their food stamps on slurry made by the highest bidder.

And even if companies have conglomerated into a technofeudal dystopia so advertisement is unnecessary, AI companies can use enshittified AI to make people feel confused and isolated when they try to think through political actions that would threaten the system but connected and empowered when they try to think through subjugating themselves or 'resisting' in an unproductive way.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 day ago (9 children)

the sooner the ai bubble bursts and takes down big tech with it the better

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Honestly the AI bubble is going to take the entire stock market with it. Over a quarter of the S&P 500 (an index of the 500 and something most valuable companies on the US Stock Market) is made up of tech companies directly investing in the AI bubble, and most individuals and funds these days invest into indexes rather than individual stocks so when a single overvalued market sector making up over a quarter of the market loses most of its value, every stock portfolio is going to lose a shitload of value.

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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 7 points 23 hours ago

It will take everything with it. We're betting the future of the whole global economy on a homework machine.

This dream that we'll wake up tomorrow and AI will be a profitable product is the only thing saving us from the full fallout of the tariffs.

It's so much worse than most people could understand from a chart.

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[–] wh0_cares@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Holy shit, you can even see the weekends.

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