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Yes, I'm aware I can curse on the internet - it's not my first day here. I use the exact words I mean to use, and I'm more a fan of the precision F-strike than indiscriminately carpet-bombing the place with "fucks". Stop word-policing me (and others).
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Yeah, this went over about as well as expected. And the irony and hypocrisy of the free speech absolutists coming out of the woodwork to tell us all what we can and can't say is not lost on me.
People can obviously say whatever they want, but my opinion is that substituting curse words makes people sound juvenile and the intent is still the same as the original word. You are still making people do a curse conversion in their heads. So why even bother? Kind of like people who won’t say goddamnit, but they’ll say gawldamnit or something like that. Do you think you’re fucking tricking god? There are plenty of other words that can be used for emphasis.
OK but holy forking shirtballs was contextually hilarious and I will always respect a good place reference.
I refuse to get behind "unalive"
And the reason for that is that unalive only exists because of shit sites like YouTube that won't allow basic language because oh my god won't anyone think of the children!?
Exactly, but it erks me that it has moved into irl interaction. Perhaps I'm just an old man, (I am) and I get that even speaking in public sometimes requires self censorship on the simple grounds that it's polite, but using corporate approved verbage on every day conversation fills.me with rage and regret
I don't care if people censor their swears, my problem is the word substitutions making whatever they're saying nigh unreadable like "Unalive", "grape", "PDF file".
PDF file?
Edit: oh wait. I had to say it out loud. Pedophile.
Peter File.
No, fuck that.
Either stop self-censoring or don't structure your comments and sentences to use the word. This half-assed censoring is the lazy coward's way out
Using the word Fork instead of Fuck IS a result if policing. We just want to undo that
I don't care if someone wants to say fork, that's fine, and there aren't many people that have a problem with that, and if they do, they can't force you to say things differently anyway. At worst you get a post complaining
The real problem is the other way around; that major internet sites are word policing the crap out of everyone else to the point where you cannot even say words like "death". You have to say dumb shit like "unalive" and they do put real consequences to disobedience like being demonitized
sure, but I'd still tell people they're allowed to say the word.
I’ve always used frack , has a similar vibe to fuck
BSG, frak yeah!!
I've posted about this before and met the same results. People are very convinced that the danger of the internet becoming more ad friendly is more important that letting people say what they wanna say. In a way I do get it, but it's annoying not being able to do what you wanna do.
I sometimes use "censored" words because they're ducking hilarious
I suppose i don't see the point.
The reader knows what you censored either way, so by using the words and then censoring them you don't achieve your implied preference for reducing vulgarity in communication (so it might be more impactful and irregular when applied) at all.
Anyone who reads "forking shut" knows what you are writing there in reality. Kinda feels to me like putting on censored porn to make it family friendly, that's not working. Either watch a family movie, or some actual porn in private.
The only reasonable course of action would be to avoid vulgarity and those stand-ins for it completely in your communication.
I brought this up recently. Talking around a topic is still talking about it. If you want to have an adult conversation, use adult words. No one is requiring you to curse at all, but if you’re going to, treat the audience as the age you’re targeting.
Fuck that self-censorship bullshit.
You can use expletives, or you can use words that aren't expletives to express what you want to say. Both are valid choices.
Using bowdlerized versions of expletives like a child trying to get away with "naughty" words or a YouTuber/TikToker trying to prevent being demonetized, though? That's unnecessary to the point of obnoxiousness in an uncensored environment like Lemmy.
People's fucking speech patterns are being affected by big brother and they are genuinely just ok with it. I don't know how to explain to someone that changing the way you talk changes the way you think and you are letting corpos do that to you. AND THEN THEY GO AND DEFEND IT.
To me fork makes way more sense, I feel like it conveys a totally different tone, and therefor has a different function in communicating
I guess a sensored f---k does too, but not anywhere near as distinct.
I feel like it conveys a totally different tone, and therefor has a different function in communicating
You're forking right it does.
Censored f--k or f*ck or whatever doesn't really convey a different tone, other than trying to say something without saying it. Which is annoying and frustrating, it puts work onto the listener that should have been done by the communicator.
Fork does come out with a different tone, because it doesn't sound as harsh. It's like how saying shit is a bit less severe than saying fuck - fork would be less than both of these, maybe on par with crap.
Ay yes lets let corporations rule all of us wven further by proxy. How dare we swear on a medium that could be reuploaded to their platform
I dunno, I think it's a little childish to censor swear words instead of finding a replacement or just saying the swear, but it's not that big a deal.
what's worse is people saying r*pe or rap3 instead of rape, or "sui" or "unalive" instead of suicide. people shouldn't have to figure out how every Homestuck character would say a word if they wanna block content including these things.
The fucking problem with fucking self censorship, is it fucking often comes from people fucking compling with fucking corporate media fucking algorithmic censorship. Then internalizing the fucking limits of online spaces, it's a fucking sinister infiltration of the human fucking mind, and is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right. Also you can say fuck on the Internet.
No, fuck that. Self censorship is shit that has been pushed by companies to sanitize the internet to make websites more appealing to advertisers. It's how we get people "unaliving" themselves with "pew pews" because people are now too fucking chickenshit to just write what they mean.
If you want to fucking swear, then fucking swear. If you don't want to, then don't fucking use some bitch-ass substitute.
It feels infantile and childish to me when grown ass adults use cutie wootie wordy cursies to get around speaking like humans.
You're more than welcome to say fork or frell or frack or feth or whatever you want. I LOVE a good "forking shirtballs"
Just understand that if you start typing "f*ck" then people, self included, will assume you are a moron who thinks this is tiktok and you need to keep all your content monetized. Well, some of us are olds and will think you are a moron who doesn't realize that gets you extra banned on gamefaqs. But most people will assume the tiktok and monetization thing.
Lol blood hell apprently the comments feel like everyone needs to conform to not saying f%@! Or fork or w/e and saying the whole thing uncensored.
Personally think its funny to self censor.
I think it can be funny when done right, I prefer euphemisms (the more creative the better), second best is a grawlix, and dead last at "I hate it" is just an asterisk or dash.
As soon as some does it, every comment's like a three year old yelling, "You don't like curse words. Here's all the curse words I know!"
I say the word louder in my head when someone tries to censor it.
Ok yea I'm sometimes guilty of this, but in a more joking kinda way usually
Except when you're posting someone else's content that the creator clearly intended to have a cussword, e.g. a comic, and either you or where you got it from censored it for "the algorithm". That shit is annoying AF
Our problem is not with the way people want to say things—its the necessity to do so due to censorship by corporations in an effort to cleanse everything for advertisers.
I don't care either way, it's all part of online forums. People say something, others agree or disagree.
What I really dislike are Youtube channels having to censor themselves while reading court documents and such, in fear of getting their channel striked or demonetised.