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Yes, I'm aware I can curse on the internet - it's not my first day here. I use the exact words I mean to use, and I'm more a fan of the precision F-strike than indiscriminately carpet-bombing the place with "fucks". Stop word-policing me (and others).

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Yeah, this went over about as well as expected. And the irony and hypocrisy of the free speech absolutists coming out of the woodwork to tell us all what we can and can't say is not lost on me.

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I sometimes use "censored" words because they're ducking hilarious

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care if people censor their swears, my problem is the word substitutions making whatever they're saying nigh unreadable like "Unalive", "grape", "PDF file".

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

PDF file?

Edit: oh wait. I had to say it out loud. Pedophile.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Peter File.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

No, fuck that.

Either stop self-censoring or don't structure your comments and sentences to use the word. This half-assed censoring is the lazy coward's way out

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wait why can't I say fork?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

first sign of [spoiler]. you can't even say fuck as you wish.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve always used frack , has a similar vibe to fuck

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

BSG, frak yeah!!

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

To me fork makes way more sense, I feel like it conveys a totally different tone, and therefor has a different function in communicating

I guess a sensored f---k does too, but not anywhere near as distinct.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

Censored f--k or f*ck or whatever doesn't really convey a different tone, other than trying to say something without saying it. Which is annoying and frustrating, it puts work onto the listener that should have been done by the communicator.

Fork does come out with a different tone, because it doesn't sound as harsh. It's like how saying shit is a bit less severe than saying fuck - fork would be less than both of these, maybe on par with crap.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I feel like it conveys a totally different tone, and therefor has a different function in communicating

You're forking right it does.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago

Ay yes lets let corporations rule all of us wven further by proxy. How dare we swear on a medium that could be reuploaded to their platform

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I say the word louder in my head when someone tries to censor it.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I dunno, I think it's a little childish to censor swear words instead of finding a replacement or just saying the swear, but it's not that big a deal.

what's worse is people saying r*pe or rap3 instead of rape, or "sui" or "unalive" instead of suicide. people shouldn't have to figure out how every Homestuck character would say a word if they wanna block content including these things.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

No, fuck that. Self censorship is shit that has been pushed by companies to sanitize the internet to make websites more appealing to advertisers. It's how we get people "unaliving" themselves with "pew pews" because people are now too fucking chickenshit to just write what they mean.

If you want to fucking swear, then fucking swear. If you don't want to, then don't fucking use some bitch-ass substitute.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago
[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

The fucking problem with fucking self censorship, is it fucking often comes from people fucking compling with fucking corporate media fucking algorithmic censorship. Then internalizing the fucking limits of online spaces, it's a fucking sinister infiltration of the human fucking mind, and is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right. Also you can say fuck on the Internet.

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[–] scintilla@beehaw.org 2 points 14 hours ago

What are you talking about with free speech absolutists? I think you are trying to reach a different audience than Lemmy because I think most people here think that's stupid.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lol blood hell apprently the comments feel like everyone needs to conform to not saying f%@! Or fork or w/e and saying the whole thing uncensored.

Personally think its funny to self censor.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago

I think it can be funny when done right, I prefer euphemisms (the more creative the better), second best is a grawlix, and dead last at "I hate it" is just an asterisk or dash.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuck that self-censorship bullshit.

You can use expletives, or you can use words that aren't expletives to express what you want to say. Both are valid choices.

Using bowdlerized versions of expletives like a child trying to get away with "naughty" words or a YouTuber/TikToker trying to prevent being demonetized, though? That's unnecessary to the point of obnoxiousness in an uncensored environment like Lemmy.

[–] scintilla@beehaw.org 7 points 14 hours ago

People's fucking speech patterns are being affected by big brother and they are genuinely just ok with it. I don't know how to explain to someone that changing the way you talk changes the way you think and you are letting corpos do that to you. AND THEN THEY GO AND DEFEND IT.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 20 hours ago

Oh sure people can self censor and thats fine. It doesnt properly hide the word though. If you said out loud that someone is an "N-word" you have and the people listening have completed that word in their head and could still call you racist for using it, even though you didnt say the word your intentions to are a problem. The concept of using a censored version of a word only works to appease the person saying it.

If you want to remove the curse words just use different words entirely instead of censoring them.

Also, people who curse are more honest than thise that dont.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I suppose i don't see the point.

The reader knows what you censored either way, so by using the words and then censoring them you don't achieve your implied preference for reducing vulgarity in communication (so it might be more impactful and irregular when applied) at all.

Anyone who reads "forking shut" knows what you are writing there in reality. Kinda feels to me like putting on censored porn to make it family friendly, that's not working. Either watch a family movie, or some actual porn in private.

The only reasonable course of action would be to avoid vulgarity and those stand-ins for it completely in your communication.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

The proper term is "forking shirt" and you should be ashamed for writing anything different.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I brought this up recently. Talking around a topic is still talking about it. If you want to have an adult conversation, use adult words. No one is requiring you to curse at all, but if you’re going to, treat the audience as the age you’re targeting.

Fonk yes! Hey, why can't I say "fonk"? What the hell is going on here? Oh, hey, there's one!

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

I don't care either way, it's all part of online forums. People say something, others agree or disagree.

What I really dislike are Youtube channels having to censor themselves while reading court documents and such, in fear of getting their channel striked or demonetised.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It feels infantile and childish to me when grown ass adults use cutie wootie wordy cursies to get around speaking like humans.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 8 points 22 hours ago

I probably swear less since having kids and use more non-swearing expletives ("flipping heck", "crikey" etc.) in real life speech. Some of that inevitably bleeds into how I write online even though it's not directed at kids, just because language is habit-forming.

But I really, really hate the "f--k" thing. Either swear or don't. Swearing like you're trying to get one over on teacher is weird.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You're more than welcome to say fork or frell or frack or feth or whatever you want. I LOVE a good "forking shirtballs"

Just understand that if you start typing "f*ck" then people, self included, will assume you are a moron who thinks this is tiktok and you need to keep all your content monetized. Well, some of us are olds and will think you are a moron who doesn't realize that gets you extra banned on gamefaqs. But most people will assume the tiktok and monetization thing.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

extra banned on gamefaqs

i am 12 and what is this?

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

If they go over to lemmy.ml, they'll have that all done for them automatically, because communism needs clean language to thrive, apparently.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As soon as some does it, every comment's like a three year old yelling, "You don't like curse words. Here's all the curse words I know!"

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