Good, point out their BS. Valve is doing lords work.
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2025
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If the payment processors are entities separate from Mastercard, then why not name and shame them?
Particularly as this is causing huge brand damage to MasterCard/Visa. If there is someone else who should take the issue, you'd think they'd point the issue at them and dust themselves off.
If MasterCard doesn't have control over the NSFW bans, there is an easy way to solve this:
Announce that they are explicitly allowing NSFW purchases.
If they won't do that, then one of two things are true:
- MasterCard doesn't have control over its process, to which point investors should question what value they provide
- MasterCard is lying and they do have control over its processes, to which point merchants and consumers should question how much they can trust a company that will ban certain categories of purchases
Yep and yet they won't because it's incredibly convenient for them to be able to maintain that kind of control while disavowing it at the same time.
The proliferation of doublethink within the last ten years has been incredibly frightening.
Social media echo chambers made us tolerant to extreme opinions and irrational ideas presented as facts. Nobody fights back against bullshit anymore.
The point is that this would force them to show their hand. Either they will exercise control in this situation or they won't.
If they don't, problem solved; and, if they do then we know who the problem is.
So what’s the problem? Mastercard says it’s not us and Steam says it’s not us. Just put em back up.
If Mastercard really was not involved they would be suing for libel.
What's the best way to pay for games that doesn't involve MasterCard, visa, PayPal, or any other company currently pulling this bullshit?
SEPA or giftcards
That goes through the bank/cash to voucher
I love that MasterCard is pushing this shit under the guise of "brand damaging" products.
Yet this whole fiasco is the most brand damage they could ask for.
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
Valve, I already am a fanboy, no need to drive the point home.
MasterCard will revoke your payment processing for that.
Is there any other payment method that works? Use them instead. If no, then just boycott MasterCard and whoever else, it's not like you're going to be able to buy your games anyway.
Sadly both Mastercard and Visa have supported this practice and thats the 2 big ones.
Dang, looks like I actually have to do some reading.
Steam accepts major credit and debit card brands, including Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover.
Digital wallets, such as PayPal and Skrill, offer a convenient and secure way to make payments on Steam.
Steam gift cards can be purchased from various retailers, both online and offline, and can be redeemed on the Steam platform.
In addition to these payment methods, Steam also supports other region-specific payment methods, such as iDeal in the Netherlands, Sofort in Germany, and WebMoney in Russia.
Looks like there is a way. Is there a will?
Use your Mastercard to buy yourself a Steam gift card then buy a product that is offensive to Mastercard with the gift card.
Now you're thinking with portals!
I haven't heard Amex mentioned in any of this so, I guess they're ok?
They're a lot smaller by comparison. Not a lot of places accept American Express (and the few that do tend to do it for an increased surcharge), where many more would take a Visa/Mastercard.
I wouldn't know, I don't buy games ever since I found out I didn't buy games, merely licensed them. Which is kind of ironic as I would assume most of the censored games are available on the high seas.
Buy on GOG then
Good point, they have a reasonable purchase and backup policy.