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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We do not specifically hate the US. We fear for our safety and our families with MAGA, Trump, ICE and sadly now, the people we're supposed to go to for help, the police. .I've been visiting the US every 3-4 years since 1994 when 'fly drive' holidays were affordable for people aged 21. Havent been since Trump was rising in popularity for election and we were having a chat about it in a restaurant in Orlando. We had not realised just how quickly strangers could get hostile so quickly. Currently, my social media and messages would likely be sufficient to have me disappeared. I am maybe typically of Europeans for my open view of Trump.

[–] BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I know it's a total trope, but it isn't all Americans. Plenty of us are horrified by what's happening too...

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Americans are dumbasses.

Source: I live in the USA

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago

We see regular articles about the decline in business for American tourism in our part of Canada. There have been some major destination offers of 50-80% off offered to Canadians willing to return and stay at traditional places Canadians visit.

Fuck em. Death to murica.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

I won't even enter American air space for as long as I live. Also, I'm not ever going to buy American products unless I absolutely have to.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Or get labelled as "dangerous criminals", because of the quota of ICE.

I grew up learning that the communist secret police was bad, because they had to fill out quotas of arrests for crimes, so they just tortured people until they confessed. Often they were executed. Even one of my great-grandfather was sent to a gulag after he was at the wrong place during the 1956 revolution of Hungary, while the other was almost arrested for not wanting to shoot protestors with a machine gun.

[–] EmpressRka@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm trans, if I ever set a toe in that shithole I'm gonna get shot

Thank gods Europe is still free (at least for now)

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not shooting us YET but I'm sure it's coming. I'm trans and HERE and scared as fuck.

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[–] mdm@mcnamarii.town 17 points 3 days ago

@JeSuisUnHombre In 2023 I took a trip to Canada from the US via car -- at the Canadian border, a nice guy asked me two questions and they waived me through. No guards, no guns, no dogs.

Coming back into the American border? Militarized checkpoint. Black-clothed rifle-carrying agents marching up and down through lines of cars, with dogs. A car next to me with a family inside being stripped down for a search.

Most Americans don't travel out of country, and thus don't see this stuff.

[–] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is nothing worth coming here for. This place is not a place of honor... nothing valued is here.

[–] WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social 14 points 3 days ago

@JeSuisUnHombre this: so many Americans have no idea they're living in a dictatorship and that's almost the most scary thing of all.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Go read about how empty Las Vegas is and all the people scratching their heads wondering why no one wants to come. Personally, I think the people who say they don't know are lying or stupid.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 39 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I just did a YouTube search for 'Las Vegas dead' and found a video of a guy highlighting how dead it is, and my god the comments are all to do with stuff like price gouging cited as the reason why... Someone even suggested it's because they're all going LA instead. Nobody is mentioning the lack of foreign tourists... Crazy stuff.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

Honestly, 2 things can be true. Vegas has gouged consumers excessively in recent years. Fees for parking, increased resort fees, fewer comps for gamblers while at the same time removing anything remotely affordable like buffets. They have not helped themselves in attracting domestic visitors, and the regime isn't helping with foreign visitors. It might get ugly out there really soon, and frankly, a lot of it was self inflicted by greedy corporations.

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[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 165 points 4 days ago (20 children)

I would not fly to the US even if I got paid for it. I value my life and the US politics look like a serious threat to my wellbeing.

So, count me (German) into the group of „stay the hell away from the US“ people.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 189 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You aren't supposed to travel into Nazi Germany right as they are setting up the concentration camps. US tourism should be zero if you don't have family here

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Olympics were held in Germany while Nazis were in power, it'll be that way here too.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 3 days ago

Germany cleaned up Berlin, took down signs, and chilled out somewhat for the Olympics. I don't know if the current administration is smart enough to do that.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

US tourism should be zero, and if you have family here then you should be trying to help them leave.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Even as an American I don't understand why tourism hasn't dropped more than it has. I know it's down but I'm amazed people are still coming at all.

But, it's true that the mainstream media isn't really reporting on this, Trump's 'flood the zone' strategy works exceedingly well.

[–] Legisign@europe.pub 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t understand why tourism hasn’t dropped more than it has. I

Probably because something so big as a voyage to the US is often planned for years before which may make it too difficult or expensive to cancel. A year from now, things might look a lot different.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (8 children)

As an American I can confirm we are absolute trash right now and we're sealing our fate for at least a generation.

People the world over are going to spend the rest of their lives at the very least having a bad taste in their mouth when America is brought up. Things may "normalize" and regular trade agreements may resume, but trust is broken and that's long-term.

It's unbelievably depressing to watch from the inside. The shock of finding out that such a high percentage of your fellow citizens are stupid/racist/hateful is profound.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 11 points 3 days ago

People the world over are going to spend the rest of their lives at the very least having a bad taste in their mouth when America is brought up

Bud...i have one hell of a revelation for you....

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Oh it will be generational.

I am Canadian. My kids 12 and 10 are learning to avoid all products and services from 'murica. They're into it and talking about it with their friends. They will be taught and they will follow through. They already are.

Death to 'murica.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 65 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I watch Telemundo with subtitles in my office when I want to have something on so I can try to learn a little more Spanish. Everyday they're talking about ICE abducting people. It's wild. And it's local Telemundo. This shit is fucked.

I told someone from UK recently that yeah, America is cool, I think it's worth seeing some of the national parks, but maybe wait until this administration is out because holy FUCK.

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[–] Unlearned9545@lemmy.world 106 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I am a US citizen living abroad. Even I'm afraid to go back home to see my family.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 82 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My father in law passed away back in the states and my wife was told not to come back because it's not safe. Normality has fully ended.

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[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Father in law, an engineer in his early sixties has been declining jobs his company had lined up for him in the US. He's worried what being detained for a few days without his meds would do to him.

[–] undead@masto.hackers.town 10 points 3 days ago

@JeSuisUnHombre

Any American who has crossed the border in the last couple of years does know, and the CBP were cracking down even during Biden's admin.

That is why many USians are also not traveling abroad during Trump's regime, because we would have to come back in through those same checks under his admin.

I mean, for those USians who have plans to come back...

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Im a Canadian citizen, but was born in Central America. I have tattoos and anti trump memes on my phone. I at least used to tel myself “at leadte if I get arrested and fucked with, the Canadian government will save me”

Then I saw a report about a white Canadian girl who was detained for weeks. And the Canadian government did nothing and let her rot till the Americans released her. So yeah I ain’t going anywhere near the U.S

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[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Why are New Zealanders being detained?

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

Loads of people have been "detained" simply for having anything resembling anti trump sentiment on their personal electronic devices. People from many different countries.

Don't travel to 'murica. It's a fascist dictatorship and you do not have rights regardless of your skin color or where your passport is from.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume its predominantly Maori being detained. Because they're brown.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nope. White fuckeras everywhere. Same as the aussies

the US can't even claim their usual racist shitfuckery, they're just goddamn insane

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[–] cwicseolfor@urbanists.social 14 points 3 days ago

@Glitterbomb @Dogyote They’re detaining absolutely anybody they think might not be partial to the regime. They demand you make your social media pages public so they can see if you posted anything critical, they’ve sent people back for things as simple as memes. Plenty of the people they’re sending back are their exact racial preference because *the chance to exercise power* is the draw to this sort of work (though that often goes hand in hand with racism, when overreach must be more selective.)

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 60 points 4 days ago (16 children)

What has been particularly telling for me as an Aussie is the sheer number of radio ads I've heard in the past few months trying to get people to travel to the US, or offering competitions where the prize is a US holiday (which, if I was the type to actually phone and enter radio station competitions, would be a deterrant for me!). It's clear that US tourism has taken a nose-dive and plenty of us non-Americans don't want to visit any more (it's a bit disappointing as there are a few things I would like to have seen, but wouldn't risk going there now).

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Corporate media supports fascism for tax cuts and deregulation. Their woke shit was only ever marketing.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Copros are always follow the profit, what else is new. When thr pressure was on being "woke", they were "woke". That means we need to continue do pressure. Or did anyone thought corporations are people and have feelings?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 70 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh wow, it's true. This is from April, it was 8 at that time:

One Kiwi woman in her 40s was allegedly detained at San Francisco Airport for 15 hours and forced to buy a return ticket to New Zealand after officials took issue with the visa she’d been issued by the State Department.

Planning to visit her partner in Florida, who works on a fixed-term contract, before holidaying in Europe, the woman was allegedly questioned for five hours over her visa, Arizona-based author Wendilynn Kay alleged in a post reshared on Facebook.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/travel-news/eight-kiwis-detained-at-us-border-since-november-mfat-reminds-travellers-of-entry-rules-amid-safetravel-review/BUP6FRREGJE33FEV4IJ334VSVQ/

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 65 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh for fucks sake, stay away. Most of us know exactly what is going on. Stay they fuck away for a dozen years or so while we fight our out of it, or show up to help. Either way, don’t come here to holiday. We gotta unfuck ourselves first.

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[–] 7empest@beehaw.org 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Was recently at a conference and I wasasked if I would give a presentation at one of the Universities in the US. My rather fast no offended them.

No fucking way, nope nope nope

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