That it's a distraction from the Epstein list and that the sitting president rapes women and children alike?
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Also, he's spending at least 1 billion of our tax dollars on his bribe plane.
That they are "donating to his presidential library" afterwards... Because... reasons...
Man, I sure hope his library is large enough to land a Boeing in it. Maybe he should get an airport for it for free as well.
Don't worry, I am sure Ted Cruz and John Cornyn thought through the logistics just like they did when saying they were going to steal the space shuttle from the Smithsonian.
And the stolen election: https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
+1...Does not surprise me and thanks for the link.
Unfortunately, Fascism won because it's controlling our country. Pointing to fascist and calling them out for cheating will not make fascist stop being fascist.
I'll be honest, I haven't looked into the election stuff much because I see it as an effort that goes nowhere. Even if I think it very likely.
Like, we're black bagging people and shipping them to foreign countrys prisons. Like, if we can't rally people around resistance to that then how are we going to make people care about election results in a system most people feel like has never worked in the first place?
Fascism is here BECAUSE this "democracys" structures are meant to serve the wealthy and ruling class. That's how they were written since this nations foundation. This time it was just in your face so plainly because they realized they dont need to pretend anymore.
The people of this country don't need election investigations to understand that the system is not democratic. They've felt that their entire lives in some way or another.
Trump made the ruling class of America realize they didn't have to keep pretending the systems were democratic. Literally spitting on the ballots is not what brought us here. Its just the point we finally reached.
Consider for a moment Trump dies or is removed over Epstein. JD Vance can't keep the show going.
More important than that consider the international implications. The illegitimacy has cost.
There's an NSA report to be subpoenaed. There may still be physical ballots to count.
Cool. It's not going to amount to anything. You can quote me on it.
Being stuck with a bunch of defeatists is a handicap but it's fine, you don't have a use here.
I'm genuinely curious what you think the end result of or even goal of this would be? Like in your mind what is the scenario that plays out to you?
Subpoena of NSA report followed by recounts. Making more of an international pariah of the USA in the short term and providing a legitimate route for removing the current regime.
That's the super short version for someone fundamentally disinterested in objective truth like yourself. Lemmy.ml ...
So, you think a vote manipulation scandal will be the shift in the international view people have of the US?
You don't think it wasn't already lost entirely by the multiple Genocides it's supporting, trade wars with its allies, and general human rights violations of anyone within its borders?
I am just trying to fathom how people with the "Harris actually won" view are pushing this for anything other than to overcome their own personal embarrassment. Or they actually are naive enough to think we'll be "going back to normal once Trump is gone" and want to ensure the system still "works".
Finding out that Fascism cheated it's way into power is not going to change anything about fascism. I think people that are focused on this voting scandal around Harris completely miss the point that fascism will not return it's power after 4 years.
You should be more focused on working locally to resist ICE. Because the next election is going to "ensure no voter fraud" with armed ICE agents intimidating anyone with even a slightly brown complexion that tries to vote.
You aren't worth the time to read another 4 paragraphs. Sorry to have given you the impression I cared.
Cute. You sound like the exact type of person that doesn't like to have their simple minded view of the world challenged. Thanks for letting me know it's not worth anymore of my time.
Boring
Aw someone needs a head pat
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Im so fucking sick of this. Why are you so easily distracted. Grow the fuck up and learn to pay attention to more than one thing at a time.
Fuck off pedo
I'm utterly embarrassed to be a US citizen. What a shitty fucking country we live in.
I am embarrassed FOR you! Yeesh. I hope the revolution happens eventually and that it is swift… It will do the whole world good.
Until then I’ll remain high so I don’t have to be sober (and in a lot of pain) in this shit hole
Hit the streets this summer and protest this shit... aaaaand its over.
The Jeffery Epstein Memorial Ballroom.
Don't care. Release the Epstein files.
is expected to be completed "long before the end of President Trump’s term," the White House said Thursday.
Because he will never leave willingly.
The grim reaper will get him eventually, Like Chaplin said, as long as men die, liberty will never perish.
If there was a way to withhold my tax dollars to the federal government and only pay state taxes without getting trouble with the IRS, I would do it in a heartbeat. I'm already fucking disgusted that my tax dollars likely helped fund worse things like "Alligator Alcatraz."
There is a way: emigrate and give up your citizenship. That's what I did when Dubya started the fascist shitshow after 9/11. I didn't want any of my hard-earned funneled into torturing innocent people in Gitmo or funding the DHS Gestapo. So I left. I'm glad I did.
FYI. Harder to do that now than ever. Good job getting out when you did. But it's not like Americans have good options. Most don't have enough to pay rent let alone emigrate.
Yeah it's not for everybody: you have to have the means, have the guts to make the jump and not hold any hope for America. Most people lack at least one of those necessary criteria. But if you can do it, it's a good option: life is much better outside the USA. Trust me on that one.
Oh I agree. I'm a citizen. But traveled a lot for work between 2005 - 2015. The second you experience what Healthcare is like outside the US it radicalizes you. And that's if the thousands of other tiny and much better experiences don't enlighten you to how backwards the US is. Tipping alone is so unnecessary.
Also, those 3 criteria are solid. Certainly my experience as well. The only difference being my personal optics. (In that I'm waiting to see what gets built on the ashes of Trump before leaving) So I guess I have molecules of hope? Eitherway, you have solid advice!
I think I would have a harder time because they want people still pay taxes when they live overseas, and would reject me just because I don't want my taxes to go to bad things.
they want people still pay taxes when they live overseas
That's why you have to give up your citizenship. The US is one of few countries in the world that run this scam of demanding taxes be paid by people who live abroad.
You can adjust your W4 and hope the IRS is so underfunded they can't go after you.
In college when we went over game theory they showed how its actually in your personal best interest not to pay taxes. Like <15% of people under $250k/year are caught in a 5 year time soan. Many of those will have no penalties at all, some will owe calculated interest and very rarely will there be some criminal penalty.
The only reason you see people in the news prosecuted is to scare people into paying taxes... They don't have the capacity to deal with everyone, even over long time horizons. Martha Stewart was to scare all the white people and Snipes was the IRS warning for black folk.
Will the ballroom be full of underaged girls?
The dude who is covering the whitehouse in gold is the same dude bitching about the price of the fed building.
... he wants a palace ...
And who has palaces? Only two kinds of people have them these days....
I'm willing to bet he's just gonna give 200 million to an associated construction company, take back like half for himself and we'll never hear about it again.
Well well, look who's making himself a kings court. Wonder if Count Epstein will be attending
He's gonna pardon Diddy and make him the official "Minister of Baby-Oil" and put him in charge of running the "ballroom"
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/08/01/trump-gold-ballroom-white-house/
funded by private donors apparently
You'll know that for sure after it's built. Right now, that's only what Trump is promising. And if there's one hard truth about Trump, it's that you can't trust anything he says.