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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33746300

    The worst thing about Linux is its users

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    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Who "won't" switch to Linux? Emigrating to Linux is just not as simple as these people believe.

    Some of us have our entire lives on Windows that will take forever to migrate with all the obligations and the crushing weight of work that we have to handle in our day to day life.

    How society would thrive if we had true freedom.

    [–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    It's not moving to a different city or country lol. Upload what you need to a cloud and put linux on a usb and install. If this takes you longer than a week.... Then idk.

    Only those apps that aren't linux compatible is a pain the ass

    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    For a lemmy user it would probably take a night, like 4 hours

    For people who don't know how to choose a boot drive it will take longer than a week to get the computer to where they had their windows machine, and probably like 20-30 hrs of work.

    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I literally don't know how to use Linux and I'm a moron

    [–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago

    Luckily linux does 95% of the work for you nowadays! Follow a 15 min tutorial on youtube, and pick Zorin or Mint. No configuring drivers, no setting up grub. Modern distros truly are a Penguin blessing. Want software? Open de software center and click install!

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    I mean, tbf, your other option is a violent takeover of the Microsoft corporation, complete with rifles and grenades and stuff, so like, by comparison "fucking install mint or fedora ffs" sounds a lot easier.

    I mean yee I agree "microstof should just stop asshole," but good fucking luck with that..

    Finally, someone is starting to get a hint of what needs to happen with all those monopolies.

    No, well guy is right. Trusting capitalists to leave money and power on the table for ideals is naive at best.

    It's also pretty easy these days.

    [–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    There’s barely anything you β€œneed” Windows for anymore. Especially as something like 99% of most people’s PC usage is web (including cloud-hosted Office type apps).

    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    You say this, but you haven't met all the programs I have to use for work.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    The solution to this is to organize with your coworkers and seize the means of production, and then vote to use only Free, Libre, and Open Source Software from now on. Easy peasy.

    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

    I work in IT support, the options for good, and Foss software on the technician side of most RMM tools.... Vanishing small, if any.

    There's a lot of platforms that support monitoring and management on the client side, but when it comes to technician side tools, GFL. Most vendors don't even mention it at all, fewer support anything other than Windows. FOSS isn't concerned about the IT support folks because almost all FOSS is made by people who can build their own computer and don't need support.

    [–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    That's why the NSA classifies Linux Journal readers as extremists.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

    I mean, at this point if you aren't already on a list you are probably a bad person.

    [–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone -1 points 6 days ago

    Yeah, but if Microsoft spy on your work machine that’s the company’s problem. I still have to use Visual Studio, but not for anything out of work.

    [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

    I am the smug well guy in this picture. You can complain and whine about Microsoft's shitty practices to people who have no way of effecting them..oooorr you can use a different OS. Kind of a "better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" deal.

    My producer had used Linux for almost 5 years by now (on the 20th of this month), and I had used it for just around the same amount of time (shorter than him).

    This is way truer than you think in my opinion....

    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

    The artificial superiority of linux users is the main barrier to creating more linux users

    [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I should move but I just haven't found a good time to uproot my main pc and have an extended period of downtime. I'm not really using windows exclusive stuff anymore.

    [–] individual@toast.ooo 1 points 6 days ago

    back that data up

    [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    About 15 years ago I gave Linux a try, liked it and showed it to my wife who is less technical than me. She said she found it nicer than windows so I put it in the common computer and never looked back.

    You can find as many excuses not to use Linux as I can give you reasons and solutions to try it... at the end of the day, try it, don't try it, it's your decision and you get to live with the consequences of those decisions. Me evangelizing about Linux is just as painful as hearing Window users complain about it yet unwilling to do anything but whine about it

    If you do give it a try and have an issue, there are plenty places to get help for Linux better than the MS forums, this is undeniable.

    Also, notice Windows is like bumper cars while Linux is like the entire vehicle fleet of the world, you want to drive a tank, you got it... wanna drive a super car, got it... wanna drive a hot air balloon that moves on good wishes, Linux has one distro just like that... you probably should not learn to drive in a Ferrari when you are late for work, choose a beginner friendly distro and move on from there at your pace if you feel like it

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    [–] anistorian@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (44 children)

    I don’t know how to feel about this. Because the intelligent guy is totally me, but I also recognise that Linux is in no shape for a non tech literate person just to jump into.

    [–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 87 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    You could install Mint on your mother's computer and don't tell her, and she'd probably still think she was using Windows until it came time to install new software. Linux For Normies has come a long way, especially recently. It could be ready for mass adoption very soon, if not already.

    [–] anistorian@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I agree. My mom has been running Mint for 9 years with no problems. My tech illiterate friend who has an nvidia gpu on the other hand needs a lot of handholding. He would never be able to make a transition on his own.

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    [–] Booboofinget@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it ran all the programs I use. And yes, I know about wine, but it's still not all there yet. Thankfully there are more and more programs I use that now run natively in Linux, so I still have hope.

    [–] iii@mander.xyz 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    if it ran all the programs I use

    Got ya fam: don't use the programs that don't run on linux. UR WELCOME

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    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I don't want Linus Torvald spying on me through my computer, either! /s

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    [–] nibby@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    As someone who considers themselves a "Linux-evangelist" and has run it exclusively on my devices for years, I really despise that the goto method for recruiting others is to shit on other OSs and claim that Linux beats them all. Whilst you're not wrong and all your arguments are true, nobody wants to listen to that.

    The most succesful campaigns I have seen has been to gently introduce people to Linux and let them play around with it. Alot of people really just liked it, but where more open to adopt since they arrived at the conclusion on their own, instead of being force-fed it.

    [–] Mesophar@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Just today I had to explain to a coworker how I grew to love Linux because I was hating Windows, I don't hate Windows because I love Linux. And I don't want to hate Windows, I wish they were slowly becoming anti-user, but they keep adding (forcing) features that are so unfriendly to the user.

    I had to help someone figure out why their new storage drive wasn't showing up, and it was because Windows has something called "Storage Spaces", turning "unused" storage drives into a sort of virtual raid local One Drive. It's a neat idea, but it hides the physical drive from File Explorer and Disk Management. That should be a feature you have to intentionally configure and enable, not something that can just happen automatically.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

    That is diabolical and gross. Definitely should be opt-in.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

    I think it highly depends on the person. I have never been a 'brand loyal' type person. It was very likely Linux users clowning on Windows and OS X that got me interested enough to check it out.

    I do believe you though, some people even if you simply try to correct their misconceptions about Linux get super defensive. It's like Stockholm Syndrome, but for OS's.

    The most succesful campaigns I have seen has been to gently introduce people to Linux and let them play around with it.

    I think the Steam Deck is helping in this area. People turn on 'Desktop Mode' just to try it and see that it's not some scary esoteric thing, but basically works just like Windows or Mac.

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