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A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.
Wouldn't that effectively end the used phone market, forcing everyone to pay for new?
If phones were built to last and something you would only buy once every 10ish years, I think we would all be better for it. I also think buying a phone from new would mean something different than it does in today's consumer culture. It would be way cheaper longterm for everybody as well.
The used phone market only exists because of the current buy and throw away culture we live in.
Personally I wish there was a way to just build a phone like with PCs. With the exception of needing to upgrade my SSDs my computer is basically good for another 10 years or so, I wish I could do the same for a smart phone.
My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.
i am withing this from my 2018 Huawei : Hello !
It might simply be my my use patterns but in my experience they tend to require a battery replacement in that time. Apple charged so much for the replacements it's often not really worth it unless you get some guy in a strip mall to do it
So tired of the audience participation in these endless phone wars. Oh you have a smart phone? Dope! They’re cool and useful. Anyway
I like Apple’s os, App Store and processors better than android’s. I like Android’s everything else better than apple’s.
Ultimately you are getting fucked anyway but you get to pick the guy who fucks you.
Well everyone says, and has said for years, that the best phone would run iOS but with the hardware innovations of Android phones.
Hell we're on the 7th generation of foldables and Apple still hasn't got one. I get they're not for everyone, and that's fine, but they should have the option.
If Apple offered an iPad that I could fold up and put in my pocket I might actually consider switching over. I'm not particularly bothered by iOS on a phone but iPad OS on a foldable phone I'm pretty sure that would sound like hotcakes even if it was 3K.
If people were simply pointing out the pros and cons of the various devices, it would be very helpful and useful. I don’t care if you hate Apple, I just want information about the hardware and software and if it’s a good value proposition.
When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.
While this is a fair criticism of Android you don't exactly have access to check and see if Apple is doing the same thing like you do with Android. You're really just taking Apple at their word and they wont even let you cloud save to anything but their servers and can dig through your photos to find illegal content.
Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. If so, hilarious! But, it’s the expected response from an android Lemmy user to reference graphene os.
I actually bought a pixel and installed graphene on it just to give it a try. It’s not bad, and I can do probably 90% of the things I need on there. There are even some nice apps and features you can’t get on iOS (storage scopes is cool). But, at the end of the day, switching is hard. My biggest gripe is backups suck and fail 100% of the time, also no support for touchless payments. Also, android doesn’t manage battery life that well. Some days it’s fine, but other days it randomly drains to almost zero. At the end of the day, I don’t think the solution is to hack together an OS to work on a company’s hardware that doesn’t really support the mission. I wish the Graphene team would partner with Fairphone or something. Anyway, I’ll probably keep using the Pixel here and there, but I don’t know if I could daily drive it. I did try.
For contactless payments, try Curve: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imaginecurve.curve.prd
I am curious how Android Auto works with Graphene. I missed Android Auto when I was using LineageOS
Battery is also an issue even on Stock Android. The 5G chips on the recent Pixels drain it like a MF.
It really is annoying, I really want a cheap phone that doesn't spy on me. I'm either stuck between an expensive and closed EcoSystem, Android which I can't trust to fart near or Custom Roms which does lack features
Since you mentioned Fairphone, another option as custom ROM would be e/OS which is not only supported but also comes pre-installed on fairphones (if you choose so). Sure, there are differences to Graphene, but I installed e/OS on my fp6 a few weeks ago and Im super happy with it - no more Google! And battery performance is pretty decent, too.
Tbf, never been an Apple guy, so I cant say how the switch would be for you, but coming from Xiaomi-Android it felt really refreshing :D
Apple absolutely does spy on their customers. They've just taken this clever approach where they say they don't, and for some bizarre reason everyone just accepts it.
They probably don't spy as much as Google does, but let's face it they're definitely collecting info.
Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”
Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.
What do you think iCloud is for? Do you they are just be nice offering a cloud storage solution, or do you think maybe they get something out of it?
iCloud is just a set of services Apple offers for their customers. Complete with vendor lock in. There’s no indication they are selling that data though if that’s what you are asking.
What’s there to innovate, really? That ship has sailed back in the ‘90’s.
Nokia, Motorola, Sony-Ericksson and a bunch of other companies put out a ton of really neat phones. Tech moved so fast, every six months you’d see new leaps: introducing a color screen, Bluetooth, new ringtone formats, WAP, installable apps, etc.
These days we’ve pretty much settled on boring rectangular slabs. Innovation means yet another camera, a .01 mm thinner phone, a faster screen… none of it really exciting.
We all need phones. And yes, iPhones just work. There’s nothing wrong with buying a thing that just works. I don’t need my toaster to ‘innovate’ either - just to make toast predictably, you know?
The Iphone is a luxury commodity and like all luxury commodities it marketed for people with little sense and lots of money who are easily separated from the ladder with shiny trinkets. Before the Iphone there was the Rolex and the super-secret clothing designer brands only 1%er yuppies think they know about. Before that people ground up egyptian mummies for medicine/taste and bought expensive jar of nutmeg spice from halfway across the world imported via boat. These kind of people were always going to spend 2000$ on trinkets whether its a 2000$ pocket computer or a 800$ wrist watch is a difference in taste. The real question is why humanity can't shed this consumerist prone archetype what is it about people constantly wanting new shiny things that they don't need and for which the money can go to a better place? Why do modern consumerist not have the ability to tell corporations to fuck off? Why is it that after a quarter century of time to get used to the concept of a computer and an email people tantrum and shriek when their tappy button gets moved 2 inches to the left without knowing how to fix it? Why do we consider this an acceptable baseline for human intelligence and emotional volatility?
It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.
Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.
Dude I’m still bitter about Apple killing 3D Touch. It’s like companies research what I like and when they find it that’s the tipping point for killing a feature/flavor/model/etc.
Canonical had a really interesting idea for a Linux phone back in the day but it never launched. There are some Linux phones trying to make that happen but it’s just not likely to see the widespread adoption needed to fund development.
We can’t have nice things.
Last time I went to my cellphone carrier offices to upgrade my hardware, they were already pushing the iPhone 15 or 16, but I went in there and asked for the iPhone 10, managed to get the very last one they had in stock. It cost a fraction of what the latest ones did, does everything I need it to do, and a couple of years later it's still purring like a kitten.
2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.