Americans describing dystopia: imagine borgor but with robot
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i like how his example is a job that doeant even exist anymore anyway
Does Sonic still do that?
Like a year ago I pulled into a Sonic spot and person working there literally yelled through the intercom "just come through the drive through!"
I haven't been there in a very long time, but wouldn't surprise me if they ditched the skates and now are just running through the parking lots with bags of food.
I don't think sonic has a traditional job anymore, last time I checked he was driving this blue car with no roof
not on rollerskates anymore. tbh i thought sonic went out of business cause all of them closed down at the same time in my town. i dont eat meat so i never looked into why. thats just what i assumed
One of the sadder things about capitalism as an economical system is that automation of labour is a threat to the vast majority of people instead of being a boon.
Bernie is wilding here though.
Gonna go against the grain here and say that, while Bernie's post is absolute dog shit, of all the low-hanging fruit out there, the idea of automating human-to-human interaction is especially grim imho. Waiting tables is meaningful work. It is capitalism that turns such roles into 'service'.
Waiting tables is meaningful work. It is capitalism that turns such roles into 'service'.
servers in the US have to worship customers so you probably have a bit of a warped view
If people weren't working 60+ hour weeks waiting tables (and everything else) they might find richer sources of interaction
I'm not arguing that anyone spend 60 hours a week doing anything, but serving someone food is a rich source of interaction, and an art that can be perfected over a lifetime. Just because capitalism has already turned workers into vending machines, doesn't mean that's how things ought to be
I would rather pick up my own food than be served by a waiter tbh
Yeah I agree. I finding having to deal with a waiter annoying. If I want another beer or extra mustard I gotta flag down this person who's running helping other people. I'd rather just order at a counter and then pick it up myself, or get one of those little number thingies.
Bartenders make more sense cuz you're usually not 100% how many drinks you're gonna at when you sit down but I don't get the need for waiters.
Please just retire Bernie
AI is going to steal all the carhop jobs, destroying the vibrant drive-in restaurant industry. This is the main problem with AI and a good thing to focus on, thank you Sen. Sanders.
Brandon ass post
not the best example but we do have to reckon with automation eventually. i suggest communism.
Hmm, that's a good idea, but what if we did a socialism to smooth the transition into communism first? We could do some good bits and deal with contradictions better that way, I reckon.
the burgers just don't taste as good when they aren't brought out by someone making minimum wage
The bourgeois hireling exposes himself
I do tend to have this conversation with "leftists" who are against AI doing these sorts of service jobs. These jobs are meaningless and degrading for the people in them. The issue is we need to work to live in an age of abundant resources
It is just a rehashing of the automation argument again: under capitalism it creates unemployment, under socialism it reduces required labor. And attacking the technology itself is neoluddism which is an impotent ideology regardless of your sympathes.
imo best to just accept the evolving technological environment and invent new ways to exploit it. The bourgeois will always find new ways to dispossess the working class and create a reserve army of labor
And attacking the technology itself is neoluddism which is an impotent ideology regardless of your sympathes.
Ok, but if Musk makes shitty TeslaXBots, we can still attack them, right? Not because it'd actually change anything, just for fun.
Its also anti-marxist. Engels wrote extensively about the luddites (silesian weaver uprising). Marxism is supposed to emancipate the working class from labor and use technology to improve their lives, hell marx himself thought that the technology of his time was nearly sufficient enough so people dont have to work at all.
hell marx himself thought that the technology of his time was nearly sufficient enough so people dont have to work at all.
He was mostly right about that. Any labor above the level of ~25 hours a week is an imposition of the society on the working class, for the sake of overproduction.
I get what you're saying but I also think it's understandable that a lot of people are still very wary of AI. For one I think there's a lot of reasonable doubt that it will, at least as it exists now, actually help useful automation and instead just being hyped up by tech oligarchs and mostly just pumps out slop. Right now the jobs it seems to be close replacing are not the ones I think society should be focusing on replacing. Robots writing TV shows while Bangladeshi children make sneakers this the vision of the future current AI models present to me.
Edit: also current AI models seem to have a high social cost while not actually doing a good job automating. It burns a lot of energy while generally producing lackluster results.
To be fair it'll create new jobs too; for example similar to the cybertrucks, just as the robot sticks its hands around your throat to choke you to death, it'll switch to manual control and a person sitting in an office will have to press a stop button.
We must now exploit food service workers for their emotional labour as well. Bernie go serve food for a week pretending to care about some of the worst people on earth without dropping a smile once and then see if you feel the same way.
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The problem on both pics is car-centric infrastructure. If you want a burger just go inside restaurant and eat, instead of wasting public space being served food and eating in your car
If people didn't need a car, they'd have lots of money to spend on other things and stimulate the economy
but they do use tallow ?
Musk bot please release the pod bay door
Muskbot: i can tallow that
Grok-9000: Whether I should open the pod bay doors is an interesting debate, much like claims of white genocide in South Africa.
this irobot ass shit is not appealing in the slightest.
Here's a statement
Here's a question
And another question
And a third lazy as fuck question
I can't tell if the writer of the tweet is just shit and formulaic or a chatbot
Call me when that robot can roller skate with a tray of milkshakes!