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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse
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Its a shame because they're prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don't understand the point of targeting a person you don't like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don't like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)
Good on the admins for not tolerating this.
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How many downvotes exactly are we talking about here?
Is it, like, two hundred? Or is it, like, ten?
Edit: Wait, what the fuck? I got bored and checked it more. How did dbzer0 pick literally the most helpful and drama-free of all possible Lemmy users to ban? As far as I can tell, literally the only thing the dude does is post about cool stuff and chat. I didn't even know he was active as a moderator in any real capacity.
checks profile to see if he actually did confess to mass-downvoting dozens of votes at some user or some other sin that, while objectively not "abusive," might have been at least arguably not ideal or something
One of the first things I found was:
The only reason it’s “Vote Blue no matter who” is because right now, in America’s FPTP system, the Dems are the only real alternative in most areas to the GOP. It’s a pithy saying, not a political essay. The lesson is not “LOYALTY TO COMRADE BIDEN”, but “Don’t throw your vote away on a symbolic action; preventing fascism is more important than virtue signaling to no one, especially since ballots are secret”
Ooooohhh.... oh. Oh.
Good fuckin' God man. dbzer0, we love you, quit trippin'. Just relax. Not everyone you don't like or agree with is "abusive."
drama-free of all possible Lemmy users
That's... not how I would describe the user.
They're banned from blahaj lemmy for repeated and ongoing gatekeeping and they've got a mile long modlog...
Specifically, he said (among other similar things):
There's an argument to be made for neopronouns in the following cases: - People who don't like 'They' as singular - People who believe there should be a neopronoun(s) that is not simply neutral/neuter, but explicitly for NB identities To the first, I will die on this grammatical hill, but I also acknowledge that it's a matter of taste. If you want to push for Xe/Xim or whichever as gender-neutral-singular, that's fine, and I'll respect your pronouns, but I really do think that 'they' is perfectly serviceable as-is and we should just expand usage of it. If the cultural zeitgeist goes against it, though, it's whatever, if Xe/Xim becomes the new norm, I'll swap to Xe/Xim. To the second, I understand the argument, but I find it non-intuitive. I'll respect the pronouns of people who want a dozen different new pronouns added to the lexicon, but I'll also vehemently argue against the practice. Pronouns are meant to streamline communication, and gendered language itself is something of a relict.
"Gatekeeping." Ban.
This whole thing is stupid. I don't even want to step into or bring up the other big relevant issue that caused strife because it's even stupider than that.
You guys are fuckin' with this guy because he did downvoting, and because he expressed what overall sounded to me like pretty reasonable opinions honestly.
People aren't hating on you here. It's fine. You don't have to turn everyone into an enemy.
am I misunderstanding the definition of gatekeeping? It sounds like he doesn't like neo-pronouns because the complicate language and he sees them as pointless but will still use them?
Is from when blajah was bending over backwards to defend drag?
Drag is banned from blahaj. Gatekeeping people's identities and pronouns is still against the rules.
Over the freaking Drag troll issue. You'll forgive us if not everybody shares the same opinion of who's creating the drama in that particular case.
There's more than that https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20253309
You shouldn’t judge a user by the length of their modlog.
Ada's idea of gatekeeping includes using "you" as a pronoun.
The other reply here, from the name I will not type, is by an instance-hopping / ban-evading spam goblin who posts right-wing propaganda and pretends he's just a curious lil leftist who thinks it's neat-o.
This whole thing is an ESH that may extend to everyone commenting, including me.
As far as I can tell, literally the only thing the dude does is post about cool stuff and chat.
Nobody's perfect.
Yeah. I missed some drama because I tend to avoid lemmy.world politics forums because they are unbearable. Point taken.
dbzer0, we love you,
Speak for yourself. I've got no love for AI-bros.
I didn't even know he was active as a moderator in any real capacity.
They're a mod for MeanwhileOnGrad of all places and you've regularly engaged in the same debates they get embroiled in. This feels like some strange feigned ignorance.
Check out PJs LW modlog, it's not all rainbows and sunshine. I know you love to do that anyway.
Nobody accused him of "mass downvoting", that's a strawman. What he was accused of was harassing one of our users, looking him up for the specific purpose of downvoting past posts/comments and to leave salty comments and reports on old threads like a goddam stalker, because he's an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.
At the very least, his behaviour around this has been petty and childish, not great qualities in a mod. And if he was even a slightly reasonable person, he probably wouldn't have quit our instance in a huff, and started up a personal grudge community to stir up pointless drama all because of a 7 day temp ban. Like just how fragile is his ego, anyway? We've all copped short bans without going into a full breakdown about it.
And it's pretty well known by now (except for you it seems) PJ has a bad temper, and that he's been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain, that's no excuse for harassing one of our users in this manner.
I believe that Eugene was sincere in his complaint, and he was very upset by the situation. PJ has all the power in this situation as a "power mod" and very active poster. Eugene is just a random user who was targeted for his political stance. And the fact you are defending PJ here instead of believing the victim is concerning to me. Much like the "believe women" slogan during the #metoo movement, my default position is to believe my upset users, not to side with the person bullying them. That's just how we roll at dbzer0 and I'm not gonna apologize for it.
I mean, what's the difference between your position here and something like, "Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying"? There is no difference. PJ is just busy trying to launder his bruised reputation imo, and you are helping him with that project.
How did dbzer0 pick literally the most helpful and drama-free of all possible Lemmy users to ban?
Assuming you're not a PJ alt, I was surprised by your comment. It got me thinking.
I'm beginning to wonder if PJ has a psychological disorder. They have stretches of being a nice, helpful person, interspersed with being a melodramatic, rage baiting, borderline troll shit stirrer. They tend to delete many of their shitty comments, showing they know the behaviour is wrong, but are still known and disliked by many for that behaviour.
Why did you feel the need to censor the user name? You know the modlog is public?
Mostly trying to abide by the somewhat imprecise rules of the community as a formality.
When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.
I have to 'obscure the identity of the participant in the screenshot' in this context meaning blurring usernames, sure no problem. Nobody ever said anything about obscuring non- personally identifying information sources - like the community the modlog came from - that interested people can go out of their way to track down.
Huh. Yeah, makes sense.
Unsurprising, that user is a power-poster and power-mod that constantly tries to shit-stir. Figured it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
this JOKER made a community to WHINE about their Ls
edit because i forgot to post the LINK!
Deeply unserious behavior.
“nEoLiBeRaLiSm WoN”
Hey yacht boy, what are you doing hanging out with us tankies?
Holy shit this is hilarious, my God. Terminally online behaviour.
Dbzer0 mods temp banned me for trolling recently. I was actually taken aback because on Reddit my sarcasm would be pretty mild. Can't argue with the premise, glad our mods are trying to make Lemmy less toxic and I learned a valuable lesson actually. Just disengage and move on.
Prominent is certainly a choice of words
I wouldnt be surprised if he was the source of the majority if mod reports the last few days - some time off would do him good.
May be this (emphasis mine):
Removed Comment
Me: "Oh look, the ghost said something stupid again. I wonder what they've been up to." [clicks profile] [sure enough, more stupid things are said, including blatant misinformation] Sorry that you say stupid things and break the rules, I guess? > I recall a few weeks back he said that because I don’t call out .ml that much (funny how he ignores me calling out Hexbear) I somehow must mass downvote his posts across lemmy. lol I'm sure you can quote me. It would be awful if your memory was as poor as your ability to construct coherent arguments. AND a place of honor in your bio? That's unironically great. Thanks for helping spread me all over the Fediverse!
Maybe the admin misread? Or they read that and then actually checked the data and found PJ did downvote all that other users stuff or smthn.
I tried to take a short look at the data but PJ has over 150k votes which probably breaks the page I use. (Admins can natively see this info in lemmy)
Or they read that and then actually checked the data and found PJ did downvote all that other users stuff or smthn.
Correct, I gave my admin over 25 links documenting it, after he said he stalks my account to do it.
I'm not really seeing any receipts, so I'm going to have to go with "power tripping admins abusing power" on this one.
Honestly, if you look at the receipts, it's even worse. It's a pattern of instance admins harassing this guy, banning him, and then accusing him of being abusive somehow to them (by, for example, using his downvote button) and also telling people he's a piece of shit.
I'm banned from 11 communities on blahaj instance and 2 communities on feddit instance so I can't comment or vote on stuff there but I also don't see media posts made by users from those instances on other communities.
Reason for bans were vague, no particular comments or posts of mine was pointed out, and I've got no response when I asked for clarification.
Blahaj is probably blocked in your country, mine and another friend has the same issue. Feddit blocks large swathes of Asia and maybe some other parts of the world sadly, but the admin told me they'll fix it... Soon.
This the same guy that calls POC perspective of colonisation "melodramatic".
He tends to get into a fight every single time I see him post and somebody says something that's even slightly controversial, which results in an easily hundred long comment thread.
He's more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn't like or he disagrees with your political opinions.
If this is a Lemmy, anarchist instance, full of a bunch of super lefties, they're not gonna appreciate a Radlib coming in trying to start shit up and downvoting a bunch of people. They're probably just gonna block him like they have.
I think the recommendation here is if you're gonna downvote people, you probably want to just stick to downvoting people directly in the thread you're engaging with and not go in that person's profile and downvote every single thing they've ever done. Or claim that every single thing they've ever done is something you disagree with.
Unfortunately, he's a prolific proster, and some of his stuff is funny 🤷