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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 117 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The country falling apart, people getting kidnapped by masked police, unidentified government officers arresting people, ignoring citizens in natural disasters, government breaking down ..... all those things didn't cause alarm bells?

Now they're accusing one another of sex crimes again and government is grinding to a halt?

The US is turning into the most expensive laughing stock in the world!

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Because his base isn't upset about those as much as they are about Epstein. He's underwater in polling on all those other things now, but his core base wasn't upset about it

Right wing media talked about Epstein a lot over the past many years. Claimed that Trump would give them all the truth. It became an ingrained belief. Then he abruptly and very suddenly contradicted all that at once and can't keep to a consistent narrative

He also directly insult his base in the back and forth. Calling them "weaklings", stupid, etc. for caring which he normally avoids doing. Normally he pretends to care about their concerns when coming up with a BS excuse

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its unbelievable that people have to learn this lesson multiple times. Trump eventually turns on everyone the moment it will benefit him to do so.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well, in this case it's the moment he panics, whether or not it's beneficial.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 45 points 4 days ago

I mean... "one political party's figurehead literally raped children" isn't the worst reason for a crisis and things to grind to a halt.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 36 points 4 days ago

The Qanon crowd largely thought Trump was going to expose a vast network of pedophiles in government and in power. They didn't really get that he was part of the pedophile ring.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

It's very generous of you to say that we're "turning into" the most expensive laughing stock in the world.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The country falling apart, people getting kidnapped by masked police, unidentified government officers arresting people, ignoring citizens in natural disasters, government breaking down … all those things didn’t cause alarm bells?

That is not "falling apart" in the minds of Republicans, that is "working as designed".

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

When it's not working, it's working.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)

someone rich might be held accountable

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Come on, be fair, a rich person maybe suffering consequences is something that's never happened before!!!

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not true. The French have a device for it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

That reminds me, I have some sharpening to do.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Epstein! Epstein! Epstein! These people are obsessed by the fact that the President is a pedophile who rapes children. Can’t we get back to the business of kidnapping and murdering innocent people?

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bet everyone is looking to Miller for talking points and he just tells Don to go on Fox and say, “hey, I fuck kids. Lots of them. But only white kids.”

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

And only girls, as far as we know. It's not like he's a GAY PedoCon, he's a NORMAL PedoCon! Cut the pervert a break.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right. Like they were doing good work just prior to this...

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

Yeah they were doing awful shit, so derailing them is still a net win.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Release the unedited files you orange coward

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 days ago

still talking about the regime as if it has an executive and legislative branch 🤣

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd say that's what they get for electing a pedophile, but I'm honestly not sure it's possible for the Republican party to pick somebody that isn't a pedophile.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Vance seems to be more of a furniophile.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's why he always smells like scotchguard, they were brand new.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He keeps the tags as souvenirs.

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[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I feel like he's the kind of fuckin weirdo that would defile the couch right and sound... then plastic wrap it to seal in him... cause those fuckers redefine weird.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And I bet his favorite brand is La-Z Boy.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

Well, duh, we have politicians actively defending pedophiles out in plain sight, and they're doubling down to make matters worse.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago

Shit, I’ll take it. This is one they’re not even wrong to be mad about. Would have been great if this happened sometime between 2016 and 2024 but whatever, momentum is momentum.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Side note, how have the complete files not been leaked by now? This administration is one of the leakier ones, and anyone who sees any of this information has got to know how many people want it to see the light of day

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Files are only held by DOJ, which actually has decent data leak protection in place because they needed it long before the current admin.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would normally agree with you, but giving a ton of FBI employees access to review the files for mentions of Trump doesn't exactly sound like a great way to prevent leaks.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: They know exactly which docs they DON’T want released, and nobody is allowed to ‘review’ them.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Because there is no benefit to the leaker.

Not to both sides the systematic rape of children but... both sides have major figures who rape children. So a career bureaucrat who gets caught leaking this (and they would) would have poor odds of a pardon and/or promotion by future politicians.

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[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

The Epstein effect

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I wonder if they're working on a way to let Trump burn and have JD Vance pick up the torch.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

For sure. It is clear that none in the Republican top likes each other, and they all loathe Trump and hate having to kiss his ass all the time. But they can't make a move as long as he has the Republican voterbase in his pocket.

For a short while it did seriously look like it caused a dent between Trump and his voters, but now it seems like they have already moved on, when they found out that the Epstein case didn't so much implicate Democrats as it did Trump.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I know people think the bad shit ends with the One Big Beautiful Obituary. But JD's handlers are competent people. And he's such a jellyfish that he might as well be an actual sock puppet.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The bad shit doesn't end, but it does get upended. They've built the whole thing up around Trump. He will not be easy to replace while maintaining the support of the cultists. Vance doesn't even remotely have what it takes to be a cult leader. The question is, will the cultists' support be needed at that point?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Vance would definitely be a step up in competence, if for no other reason than he would probably start replacing people, since the current line-up only had loyalty to HitlerPig. But he is still evil, and shouldn't be in the Oval Office.

And MAGA will end with HitlerPig's death. It is a cult of personality, and he has deliberately structured it that way. There is no succession. When he dies, a dozen people will claim to be his hand-picked successor, starting with Jr. None of them will be accepted by the MAGA followers, and their influence will wane quickly.

When that happens, it will be easy to roll up the criminals who ran wild under HitlerPig. They won't benefit by his immunity or pardons, and they'll have to answer for their evil deeds. That is, if the Dems actually do their job, and round up those traitors and prosecute them.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I wish I had faith in the Dems playing their part, in this scenario. My bet is that they will try to maintain the status quo, even as everyone yells at them to act...... I used to think that they were being "honorable" but now I think it's cowardice and corruption. Most Dems are weak little people barely a step better than their GOP counterparts, and those that aren't are downvoted by those that are. They are far too invested in "I got mine"! This current crop of Dems are AFRAID of the GOP, probably because they have their own corruption to hide, and are afraid of retaliation.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Count on it. Peter Theil holds Vance's leash, and he will definitely want to put his Blood Boy in the chair. The question is: Will the other Sociopathic Oligarchs be comfortable with a different Sociopathic Oligarch getting all the power instead of them? HitlerPig is easy to deal with because he can be easily bought. Vance may not be so easily manipulated, since he has to follow Theil's orders.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Republicans:

IN light of other news of they day...

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Good, now keep them derailed indefinitely

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