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Fedora Weighs Dropping Release Criteria For DVD Optical Media (www.phoronix.com)
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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

Besides the corrections others have said, I really can’t think of any reason people would intentionally use legacy BIOS on a machine with UEFI for a new install.

Like, I could get doing it for an old install - I know someone who installed Windows 7 in 2015 on their then-new desktop build and later upgraded to 10 but is stuck on legacy BIOS for now with that machine because 7 only ran on that.

I could see something similarly jank happening to someone in the Linux world and then decide not to address it for “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it reasons”, but certainly not for no reason.

[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You're talking about hats, right?

[–] ISolox@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's probaly not needed at this point. You can get flash drives crazy cheap.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any computer that meets the minimum requirements for Fedora will support booting from USB. The only reason left to boot from a DVD is if you need read only media for security purposes.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or you know, MP3s on DVD for the car.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you boot Linux from your music player?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a project to me!

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

Did you misread? They wrote "the only reason left to boot from a DVD", so the use case you replied with has nothing to do with the topic.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And it's getting harder to find decent optical drives. USB external ones are utter buttgarbage.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was hopeful I would find a decent bluray drive to rip some movies I have but I cant see anything priced as I would have thought and decent.

I got a usb dvd one that works fine

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've got an old Dell that has a blu-ray burner built in. Thing is OLD, it's got a Core i7 processor with a 3 digit model number. But it runs Mint just fine. I beat the hell out of the poor thing ripping my whole DVD collection, and basically it's my optical media authoring box now. I rarely crank it up but if I truly need optical media made it's what I turn to.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I just ripped the Blu-Ray drive from my father’s PC since he wasn’t using it.

Since my machine doesn’t have 5.25” bays, I just have SATA cables dangling out the side of the case. I’ve probably ripped more CDs than Blu-Rays, though.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funnily enough my main computer does have a 5 1/4" bay. I wanted a Fractal meshify but there weren't any in the world when I went to build my computer so I bought a Fractal Pop, and it has an optical bay down in the PSU basement.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’ll definitely be a difficult undertaking, but I plan on really trying to have a 5.25” bay when I build another PC.

That probably won’t be for a couple more years, though. I’m on a Ryzen 5 2600 and RX 580, and I really don’t do that much intense gaming; a GPU upgrade is tempting so I can actually use ROCm for some casual Blender Cycles renders, though. I hope that the already dismal supply of those 5.25 cases doesn’t dwindle even more.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Get a Fractal Pop. It's got a drive bay.

I have built a computer in a Fractal Meshify before, and I prefer that case, but the Pop is alright.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah thats a great idea! I got an optiplex second hand to try my hand at linux recently. I wonder if it has a bd drive. Its an i7 too.

I want to take all my media and rip it for sharing with the fam. Over covid I was putting things on my cloud for others to grab but I want to do a full jellyfin build now.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Mine is an old XPS box, and it's kind of cool to have because it's got a lot of obsolete hardware. A PCI slot, external SATA, it might even have Firewire. So it's a relatively modern box I can run modern software on with old IO.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So boot floppies are right out?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

And so are other derivatives. No cardoard either.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean I still use the iso attached to a virtual cd-rom to create virtual machines

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's not limited to physical DVD size constraints.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, the issue is size? Like, "we can't fit into these clothes so we're gonna go Jabba the Hut", all naked and corpulent?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmfao, yes though the install ISO getting too large to fit on standard dvds

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

So we need to remind them again what 'minimal' means? Getting to be every decade now.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Damn it, on the very day my DVD burner arrived, right after the weekend when I switched to Fedora Atomic Sway. Oh this universe.

[–] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This doesn't mean Fedora will not boot from DVDs anymore, it means any optical media bug won't stop new Fedora release, any related bug will be squashed like any other regular bug after release

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 6 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the reply, I was mainly joking. The burner will be used for purposes other than burning Fedora images, but I found it funny how it all came together yesterday.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They say the best time to burn a DVD is 20 years ago. Next best time is today.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I think 20 years ago is about the last time I used a DVD

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well if they could get it to fit on a mini-dvd or a CD then nothing would be lost but I guess pre-UEFI systems are slowly going to be abandoned. (Guess coreboot community needs more funding)

[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My pre-UEFI system can boot from a USB drive.

Most still-functional ones can.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah, i think you'd have to make a lot of effort to find a pc newer than 20 years old that doesn't support usb booting

[–] UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Here... I still have one :(

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 days ago

damn

and i thought my computer was obsolete. i bought it "new" 10 years ago, but i optimized for price, so it was already obsolete then. still, it supports usb booting

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget that a lot of people still prefers legacy BIOS, even on modern system.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

But most of those should support booting from USB devices.