Interesting how we've all become accustomed to the notion that "agreeing to arbitration" has just become "waving your consumer rights" and no lawmaker is pushing to have that fixed.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
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no lawmaker is pushing to have that fixed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_Arbitration_Injustice_Repeal_Act
Was reintroduced several times, Passed the house once. Republicans keep killing it in committee.
There's also the Justice for workers Act specifically for employer force arbitration, more recently
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Holy shit. How does this not just reduce their sales to 0?
Well, the purchase is probably already made by the time this is seen, and for those who see it, they probably just ignore it similarly to EULA popups when installing programs.
It's not legally binding.
Assuming you're talking about the US, this is correct.
In the US you need to both actively acknowledge acceptance of the T&Cs, which simply opening a package typically doesn't meet.
Also, and arguably more important, they need to include the entirety of the T&Cs for you to be able to review before accepting. This means on the packaging or presented at time of purchase, not requiring you to go elsewhere to find them or having to search them out.
Now even though it's not legally enforceable, I'd say it's still scummy and companies that do it should be avoided.
The same way millions of ~~fucking morons~~ regular non-political people voted for drumpf: they thought, "well all politicians are bad, so it's not like voting for a bad guy is bad."
Most companies have loads of legalese attempting to protect themselves. Contrary to popular belief, that does not make them all equal.
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There should be an "protest buy" action to any the products that do this bullshit. A large group of people buy the products and then return them to the store for a refund. Especially for perishable goods, this would make them worthless. Which would make stocking such products a loss and force the vendors and manufacturers to cut the shit out.
Well, the top cap apparently needs to be torn off to read the sentence, lowering the shelf appeal of the product even though there are other tamper-evident seals present.
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At the board meeting, I want to hear when they decided to broadcast that they're expecting to get sued, but in a really cute way
Now that it's opened slightly, return it "immediately"
A good attorney could argue that drilling a hole in the side of the carton does not constitute opening the package.
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Open it from the bottom.
Shit like this is rarely enforceable but in order to find out, you need to have money.
What I like to do is clap back and send them my own terms and conditions, with the stipulation that if they don't write back, then they are accepting them.
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That's how you KNOW they're putting sawdust and filler in their products.
all that jazz for a protein supplement?
One full of toxic heavy metals.
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Obvious solution is to not only return that one, but then go to a different brand of store, buy a bunch, then return them the next day. Repeat for each kind of store you can reach that sells them.
"I went to the url but it was just a 404, honest. No terms, no conditions"
Open it. Return it. Repeat.
Some one should sue them for the maximum highest costs calculable for the travel time of having to return their products buying a new substitute brand, and going back home + legal fees.
Then that person should buy the product again to see if there's still an agreement in place, and sue them again.
Write on the money you used to purchase this by accepting this money you agree to the terms of service...
Eat shit turdblossoms.