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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Sasori323@lemmy.world to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I was looking through the megathread and saw this real-debrid thing. I have heard this name some times so I read what it does but wasn't able to understand it. If someone could explain it to me I would appreciate it.

Also, it caught my attention that "it's a good way to prevent your IP from ever hitting the torrent's swarm, which is the main cause of receiving copyright infringement letters". Does this mean it's an alternative to a VPN when torrenting? Is it like a seedboxes or something? Are there any free alternatives?

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[-] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

What a debriding service does is download the torrent for you, and cache it on their servers. From there you can download it from their servers without ever "touching" the torrent itself. Common uses for it are with Stremio, to stream cached movie torrents directly from the debrid service's servers.

These services are also used to download from paywalled DDL websites, such as rapidgator, nitrodl, etc, so you do not need to wait 500 hours of 50kbps.

[-] Rotkehle@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

also really popular in Germany, because if you download the torrent yourself, you can get a huge fine from the copyright owner.

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've wondered if Real-Debrid actually is German made too. The dash in the name gives that vibe.

[-] ehyuman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

how does a dash sound german?

[-] Boeman@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

der strich... That's how.

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's the most commonly spoken (Western) language that uses a lot of compound words with and without dashes. I always tend to think there's a German speaker involved when I see dashes used in English where a native English speaker wouldn't use a dash, hah.

[-] PunchEnergy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

How-did-you-know-im-german??

[-] themeltingclock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s French, I suspect based on the entity receiving the payment

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[-] Sasori323@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So it's similar to a seedbox but with even more utilities? I don't really understand the cache part. It's like they "save" the downloaded files for you?

[-] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, and then you stream them from their servers. It's quite different to a seedbox though, and that's because (apart from torrenting) they have premium subscriptions to DDL services, such as rapidgator, to allow them to rapidly download the files for multiple people. Then, you download their "saved" version of it on their server. You have no real access apart from downloading from/streaming from debriding services, whereas a seedbox you have control over it, can install other applications, have storage limits, etc.

Does this clear it up?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How in the world could they possibly cache all that content? They'd have to be google massive to be able to do that, and all for 3$/month? Something doesn't make sense

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Storage isn't nearly as expensive as it would seem looking at normal consumer cloud storage pricing. I think they also clear the cache of truly obscure content after a while. And I also think some of the "cached" content isn't even stored on their own servers, but is actually streamed from one of the 3rd party direct download services. That would ease the storage and traffic load massively.

[-] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Files aren't kept 24/7/365, but apart from that I cannot tell you as I don't work there 🤷

[-] Sasori323@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. I understand. I have only one last problem. I hate subscription services. Although real-debrid is really cheap so if I have to pay for something it will definitely be it. But just to know, are there any free alternatives.

[-] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

No. Hosting dozens upon dozens of servers to cache files costs money. Plus, they also need to buy subscriptions to the DDL services themselves. No free alternative with these features exists sadly - alldebrid has a one-time payment for a month at €3.99, no wires attached. Pretty fair price to test it out.

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I finally managed to familiriaze myself with it a week ago. Fucking awesome is what it is. In simplest terms Real-Debrid caches torrents so you can stream them from their servers instead of downloading the torrent. The cache is massive and expands constantly because any time something isn't cached already, it is cached when someone wants to watch it.

I use Stremio with Torrentio addon, it just works. The user experience is much like any legal streaming services.

Real-Debrid conceals your traffic from your ISP by using HTTPS, but the service does keep track of your IPs. It's best to create the account using an email untraceable to you, pay for the service with crypto or paysafecard and always use a VPN when logging in to the site or streaming. There's always a slight possibility that someone manages to hack into the service and use your data against you, so don't provide them any traceable data.

Real-Debrid costs 3...4 dollars per month, it's not expensive. The free or cheaper alternatives are not good. A good VPN is another 3...4 dollars so combined it's still cheaper than using a regular streaming service. I very much recommend getting into it, just remember to cover your ass.

PS. Real-Debrid caches torrents from like 20 different torrent sites and once they're cached it doesn't matter how many seeders the original torrent has. That means for example that you can stream stuff that wouldn't even be available on the torrent sites you know or use.

[-] Redoomed@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Excellent overview!

I have one data point to add: Real-Debrid accepts Privacy.com virtual cards, so this is another payment method to consider if you want to protect yourself from possible data breaches on Real-Debrid's side.

[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

So...does it allow you to eventually download the files, or are you limited to simply streaming from the remote cache?

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you stream something, the link to the file is automatically added to your RD account. You can use that link to download the file. Or you can skip the streaming part and just add stuff to your library and download them.

[-] veloxy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've been using it for a couple days, set it up with Sonarr/Radarr but been getting downloads that stay stuck at 99% and more that just don't start. Though I must say it's often with older, maybe much less popular content (been downloading older seasons of Gold Rush). With newer stuff I've been getting very good results though.

[-] Sasori323@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Real-Debrid conceals your traffic from your ISP by using HTTPS, but the service does keep track of your IPs. It’s best to create the account using an email untraceable to you, pay for the service with crypto or paysafecard and always use a VPN when logging in to the site or streaming

In the megathread it says it is a good way of hiding your IP, but you're saying it isn't totally secure. What exactly is the danger of not applying the security methods you've told?

[-] mestari@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Real-Debrid logs your all data. If they're ever hacked or cracked down by police, you can be in danger. In many countries there's a risk of heavy fines if you get caught pirating media.

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[-] DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

But beware that not all VPNs work with Real-Debrid. Check their website for compatible services.

[-] ninakuup21@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The website says that pricing is based on the country you are located in which sounds kinda risky to me tbh, is it still worth it?

Also if the answer is yes is there a country that I can pick in Mullvad that has the lowest prices? Or should I pick the country I am living it though I don't believe it exists in Mullvad

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[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Hello! I started using the same setup recently. It's fantastic but sometimes obscure stuff or programs not originally in English (don't want to call them foreign, they're not foreign when you're from there) don't have any streams available.

I understand there's a way to find magnet links yourself and add them in real-debrid. I tried that yesterday but it didn't find any seeds (fair enough).

Let's say it would've found some, how does it then work to watch it in Stremio? You just restart the app and navigate back to the program?

BTW if you haven't, maybe try also adding the Trakt addon and managing your feed lists from there, really takes it another step up!

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 24 points 1 year ago

From what I've heard, it scrapes and downloads from public trackers without ever seeding, basically acting as a plague on public trackers.

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Afaik Debrid-Link is very similar, but also seeds like a regular seed box.

[-] webuge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Besides the download torrent capabilities. It can download from some hosters (like 1ficher, and mega) as it was premium. So you pay for the real-debrid subscription which is low and has premium in a lot of those hosters. It is awesome and I strongly recommend.

[-] darthsid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How can I get started?

[-] webuge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I use this https://real-debrid.com/ register for an account and pay the subscription. Then you can generate an API Key that you can use in Torrentio. Through the web interface you can paste links manually to download.

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[-] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Just want to plug plex_Debrid in here. Guy who made it is awesome and having Debrid functionality in plex is so nice.

[-] Rambler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What is this exactly, how does it work?

[-] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The GitHub explains it great but in summary you mount your Real Debrid (or other Debrid service) account to your machine via rclone, so anything you’ve downloaded on Debrid is available on plex.

Then there’s a script that watches the plex watchlist for new requests and then scrapes torrents to get it. (similar to stremio): If it’s cached (already available on real Debrid) then you can watch it instantly. Which is majority popular content. More niche stuff it may have to request Debrid to download and try again later

Then refreshes plex to scan the library for the download.

Even works outside of plex with things like overseerr, jellyseerr, trakt to monitor requests. Also can use Trakt to manage your library. Even Support for other scrapers like jackett and torrentio and you can set it to refresh your jellyfin library if you aren’t using plex.

[-] Rambler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Looks interesting, I'll read the git as you suggested - thanks.

[-] Omission2743@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just be aware that it's still very much in beta and the support is not that great (that's how my experience was anyway). There will be a lot of pain of set it up. But once it's set up it does work well for the most part. However I am going still sticking with my current setup on Seedbox with acquiring my media via ARR software and then saving it on the cloud to be served via Plex to myself and my friends and family. Good luck!

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[-] blah@lemmy.1204.org 6 points 1 year ago

Speaking of, it’s been a while since I’ve looked at these downloaders. What are the most recent and good ones?

[-] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

put.io is pretty popular

[-] blah@lemmy.1204.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Put.io only has torrents, though. There’s also premiumize.me which has torrents, Usenet, and some DDL. It has been a bit of hit and miss for DDL, though.

[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

It basically downloads torrents to their servers so you don't directly download torrents. As another person said you can also use it with the torrentio addon for stremio. It fucking rocks