The guy writing this article called traffic violations criminal offenses. I think they're stupid.
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2025
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Any non-convicted criminals up in here?
...Anyone?
Its almost like they're aren't actually any Boogeymen.
Immigrants (regardless of status) commit crimes like 17x less or something than born citizens. The worst they can do to a citizen is fine them or throw them in jail. Immigrants have bigger things to worry about
most of the documented infractions were traffic or immigration offenses.
"Have you ever tried sugar or PCP?" --Mitch Hedberg
It makes perfect sense for deportees to be deported for immigration offenses--that's basically THE reason to deport someone in a country. Don't see anything controversial about that.
But it looks like "traffic" is thrown in (indeed, mentioned first) to make it sound more sensational--after all, that sentence is still technically accurate if it was 99% immigration offenses and 1% traffic offenses.
I got the feeling that if you considered traffic only, "most" would no longer be accurate, so I looked over the article. Lo and behold (or don't), no figure at all for traffic at all. Not even a mention of it after that line.
I hate these underhanded rhetorical 'maneuvers'--unfortunately, when the spin leads to a statement that makes the 'right team' look good, too many people happily swallow the result, no matter how disingenuous it might be.
It shouldn't be only the 'other team' that pushes back against bullshit like this.
Yeah, I hate Trump and what he is doing but my very first thought was "this is a bullshit headline."
Statistically speaking, only a tiny fraction of people living in America have ever committed murder. Even if we believed that every murder was committed by a distinct individual and no murderer ever committed a second murder, the 6/100,000 annual homicide rate means that 0.006 percent of americans commit murder every year. If 1% of the people being deported are convicted murderers, that means a deportee is 167 times more likely to be a murderer than the average person - in other words, murderers are much more likely to be deported than non-murders, but they are not the only ones being targeted. The headline could have been much less (deliberately) misleading if they just wrote "Despite Vows to ONLY remove worst offenders, ICE deported many whose worst crimes were traffic offences." This would have been true and still bad.
Using the same assumptions as above, ICE could only deport 660 people each year (.006% * 11M undocumented immigrants) if they were truly committed to only deporting the "worst of the worst". Since ICE's daily quota is 3000, this is obviously a problem.
People watch way too much Dexter and believe that murder is much more common than it is.
If you deport everybody, surely that includes the worst of the worst? - someone in administration, probably (I was going to say Trump, but somehow that seems too complex a thought)
someone in administration, probably
You can just say Stephen Miller. We all know who you meant.
Pretty much a "Kill them, for the Lord knows those that are His" situation
Steven Miller
If you deport everybody, surely that includes the worst of the worst
Not when the worst of the worst are all part of the administration itself or its financial and political backers.
Your data is irrelevant. It's all about the fee-fees. Trump just knows they're up to no good.
The ones doing the deporting, however... 😶
Yeah no shit
Of course fascists will go for the easiest prey, they're pussies after all. But so are all US Americans for letting it happen