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[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Stanning huawei: sure, I don’t know much about that equipment, it could be generally good.

Stanning tp-link: thonk

The last time I used a TP-link switch I needed to keep replacing it every 3 weeks because it keept breaking. Those things cannot take a beating.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

There's two types of responses in this thread. People who assume 'manipulated' means 'pushed around by a foreign (the US) government'. And people who assume 'manipulated' means 'complying with locals laws (that of China)'. I don't know wether the latter is a knee jerk response in favor of corporate sovereignty, or if it is about US extraterritoriality. After all, whenever we order Twitter to comply with Brazilian laws, the US government cites its own constitution or whatever to censor us.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

It depends on your threat model, but it seems most people in the lemmyverse live in some nato-aligned (or at least not aligned with the PRC) country, so if you are concerned about surveillance from your domestic state it would be safer to use Chinese technology. Sure, the PRC government might also be spying on you but what are they gonna do with that data? You don't live there lol. Unless you're working for the FBI or something, but in that case I hope the PRC spies on you a lot.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago

I might crash out if TP-Link is banned ngl.

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Huawei and TP-Link also make much better products than most American brands

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

more than a decade ago i had the perception they were cheap chinese crap, but using it made them my goto for simple routers and home networking equipment. they make simply solid routers.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

I'm loving the Xiaomi Mesh wifi I bought as a gift to my parents. Zero issues. Idk about how secure they are but I trust them more than ISP stuff (even if those used to be Huawei anyway)

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"Real-vulns" christ on a cracker the human species is fucking broken you don't have to make cringe new slang for everything

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 13 hours ago

Counterpoint: Fuck the english language.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"Real-vulns"

just rolns of the tounge that one. rural juror tier

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"can't be manipulated" is a stretch. The chairman/CEO and CFO both have party membership and the company is primarily held by a union, although it is unclear if the union holds the majority of class-b shares. There is party influence in Huawei through the executive and possibly the ownership despite them technically being private. The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 56 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

manipulated by america I think is the thing

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 hours ago

that is what I meant

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago

Pretty obviously imo lol

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.

I'd imagine that with such a large strategically important company they have more than limited control of it, which is cool and good and how it should be.

Party control is there but isn't always strong enough, even with party members, such as in the case of the Alibaba Group and Jack Ma.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club -2 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Objectively incorrect.

A number of Chinese laws state that Chinese individuals and organisations must, if asked, co-operate with intelligence work.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago

Nice of the Chinese government to ask, the US government certainly wouldn't

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 hours ago

objectively the dumbest comment in this thread

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 32 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Name a country wherein this is not true. Also the intention of the post title is clear: Free from US influence.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 25 points 14 hours ago

Look up edward snowden

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 20 points 14 hours ago

Objectively incorrect.

I do it voluntarily.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 69 points 18 hours ago

Notably, China is the only country in the world where you’re legally required to comply with government requests

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 53 points 18 hours ago

Note: this is true of companies based in the US