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Stop using a browser that violates user freedom and privacy! (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 63 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't really understand why more people don't use Firefox. I've been using it almost exclusively for probably a decade without any compatibility issues, aside from the very few sites that specifically request IE or Edge (which I usually just bypass by changing User Agent anyway).

[+] slackness@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One thing you'll often see is that "new" browsers - i.e. with no browser history, extensions, etc. - perform better than one you've been using for a while. Thus, when people switch browsers, the new one tends to feel faster, regardless of what you're switching to.

Possibly, Firefox feels just as fast after a refresh. Alternatively, a fresh profile using the new profile manager might do the same.

On the other hand, it could also be that that specific site has just been tested and optimised in Chrome, with Firefox mostly ignored because too few people use it :(

[–] trk@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been on Android since 1.5 and the "snappy" claims remind me a lot of the claims every new version there too. They're likely still going, though I haven't been active on XDA for a long time to know.

Is it actually objectively faster? Or is it a perception thing based on the way animations and screen changes are handled?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

yup. as someone who used firefox in the "wasn't yet called firefox"-day, switched to chrome when it came available on linux, and then had to switch back to firefox a year ago: chrome feels just so. much. snappier.

It's hard to describe, but everything just feels... slightly off

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You can try cromite, I think it has a version for PCs

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I'd say it's because it's not a default on the most popular operating systems (Windows, MacOS, Android systems, iOS).

How would a typical user discover Firefox?

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by change User Agent?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The user agent tells the page what the browser is, so the page can tell whether you're runnit Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc. The intent is for the page to change behavior depending on the browser since each have different capabilities (web standards change quickly). Unfortunately, pages rarely get updated in a timely fashion when browsers implement web standards so the engine check is frequently inaccurate.

Changing the user agent means changing what web pages think you're running. If a page uses an optimized API on Chrome and a slower one on Firefox because Firefox was slower to implement it, then you can get a speedup by saying your Firefox is Chrome. Some pages refuse to run unless it's a specific browser, so lying can make those pages work.

I hope that makes sense.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might I ask... how?

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's add-ons in Firefox for it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yup, look for "user agent switcher." This isn't something you should try to DIY in the settings, because user agents are complex and a small deviation can mean looking like Chrome or being unintelligible.

[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

YeS bUt iS It cAlLeD "cHrOMe"?? Thats genuinly the reply I often get.

Also it doesn't work well with our horrible school wifi, the WiFi doesn't even work with Linux or most vpn's.

[–] Undertaker@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wifi does not have to do something with browsers

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Is purely a coincidence that when I use Firefox at my school it sometimes doesn't work well, the issues are fixed when using a VPN, using my home network or switching to a chromium based browser.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I run Firefox with uBlock Origin in my work as well as private device for > 2 years without any issues including tricky applications like Citrix, Virtual Desktops etc.

On my mobile, I use Fennec with uBlock Origin, Decentraleyes and PrivacyBadger and sometimes have some small issues, so I have to view the page in Desktop mode instead.

But compared to a web full of ads, it's a difference like day and night. Definitely won't go back any time soon!

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Did you tried ironfox it has a lot of improvements.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Today "This extension is no longer supported" doesn't mean there's something seriously wrong with it, it means "Google doesn't support the fact you want to use it".

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I've never switched away from Firefox. I never liked Chrome.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Switched over to librewolf last night finally after chrome told me I couldn’t use AdNauseam anymore, no regrets, it’s better in every way.

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Honestly Firefox and it's forks are really slow on android. I still use it anyway.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

huh, i've always felt it's pretty good on android

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Slower than crime downloading MB of ads all the time?

IDK but I'm fine on FF (new phone had slowdowns til I did disable the android efficiency thingy so FF doesn't reload pages 😍)

Edit : autocorrect changed crome to crime. Keeping it.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

I rarely feel the need for a mobile browser to be "fast". If a website is somehow slow on Firefox, I just close it.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 3 months ago

It's been a while since I tried Samsung Browser, but I recall that it was very fast and also supported ad blocking.

I use Firefox on Android because I like syncing tabs to my desktop.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll be interested to see how this affects Chrome's market share over time

[–] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Narrator: it doesn't.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So stop using a browser that uses Google WebExtensions altogether. Gotcha. So other than Links, Pale Moon, Basilisk, and SeaMonkey, any suggestions?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ironfox.